Why I Don’t Recommend EstroBlock To All Women With Acne & When Not To Take It

by Fran

EstroBlock has now become widely known on the Internet as one of the better treatments of hormonal acne, and it has helped many of my clients. However, EstroBlock and other brands of Diindolylmethane (DIM) are not recommended supplements for all women with acne to take.

Two of the active ingredients in EstroBlock are Diindolylmethane (DIM) and Indole-3-Carbinal (IC3). Both DIM and IC3 are aromatase inhibitors, which means they block the enzyme aromatase which usually turns androgens into estrogens. The result is higher levels of androgens (testosterone) and lower levels of estrogens.

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EstroBlock and similar DIM supplements are an excellent option for women with acne who have high estrogen and low testosterone. These women are typically estrogen dominant. One example is women on synthetic birth control. DIM supplements will work at reducing side effects of the birth control, and getting your libido back.

Estroblock and DIM supplements are not recommended for women with high androgens (testosterone) and low estrogens. In these cases, EstroBlock and DIM can potentially make the acne worse. Keep in mind that if you are already taking a DIM supplement and you get a hormone test done, your results may show slightly elevated testosterone levels. This may be the case for women who typically have high estrogen and normal testosterone levels – which DIM and EstroBlock can be helpful for at clearing acne.

Whilst EstroBlock and DIM supplements can be excellent choices for women, please ensure that it’s the right choice for you before you begin taking it. If you can’t get a hormone test done then I recommend first working on your acne with diet and basic supplementation. Book in for an acne treatment plan and I can tailor make the best treatment plan for you.

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Kiera September 29, 2019, 12:51 pm

My Dutch test says both my estro/test are high

https://ibb.co/S3HsHCf

Is DIM for me?

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Lulu August 7, 2019, 4:31 am

Hi! I’ve been taking DIM for a week, and my skin is noticeably worse. I’ve also been experiencing hardcore detox symptoms. Should I pursue with the DIM and hope it’s just a detox, or is my skin getting so much worse a sign I definitely should not be taking DIM? Please help! I am 35 and suffer hormonal acne on my chin area and occasionally around my nose area too.
Thank you so much 🙂
Lulu

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Desi May 12, 2019, 1:53 pm

Hi

I was on Birth Control (Yasmin/Yaz) for about 2.5 years and stopped taking in last September (8-9 months ago). To prevent acne I started supplementing with Milk Thistle, Zinc, Magnesium, Evening Primrose Oil, Probiotics (1 month) and included DIM for the first 3-4 months. Then I gradually eased off of the Milk Thistle and the rest until I ran out. My skin was perfectly fine for the first 6-7 months, until last week when I began cycle 9 post Yasmin. Large, cystic acne appeared on my jawline and chin, along with tiny little bumps on my forehead. I was totally devastated because I spent so much time and money in preparation to come off the Pill and now it seems like my efforts have been in vain! I am 25, chart my cycles so I know I ovulate every month, my cycles are regular around 32 days and so far I’ve had mild PMS with the occasional spot but nothing to worry about. I don’t consume dairy and avoid gluten. My question is – Should I start supplementing with DIM again or skip it because it doesn’t seem like I’m estrogen dominant since I don’t have any symptoms except for the oily skin and cystic acne which is my main problem. I already bought DIM by Smoky Mountain Naturals which is 200mg per tablet but still hesitating whether I should start taking it because I’m worried that it may make my acne worse. The rest of my skin is pretty good/glowing as I eat pretty healthy and exercise but my jawline and cheeks are a disaster atm! This is my main concern and I hope to get an answer.

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- Fran May 13, 2019, 10:23 pm
  
  Hi Desi, try getting back onto the DIM first and see if it makes a difference. If not, then book in a consultation and I’ll take a deeper look.
  
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Jeannie February 20, 2019, 7:16 pm

Thank you so much for this great info. I’ve been taking Estroblock with Yasmin. I’m 50 and have to be on the pill for PMDD. Since taking both, I’m not having any real skin issues however, I’ve noticed a great increase in hair loss. Particularly around the crown of my head. I have had severe acne in the past and took Accutane (before it was $800 per bottle) but, the pill actually helped clear it post-Accutane. Is it possible I am testosterone dominant and need more androgens to convert to estrogen and this may be causing the hair loss? I am going to stop the Estroblock ASAP to see what happens. Thank you for any input you may have.

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- Fran May 13, 2019, 10:29 pm
  
  Hi Jeannie, I’d love to see you in a consultation to talk to you about this, and get you off supplementation and onto herbs. If not, please find a local pnatural health ractitioner to work with.
  
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nancy February 14, 2019, 5:27 pm

Hi! I was wandering if you would recommend that my daughter should take DIM or not. She is 25, never had bad acne since high school just an occasional pimple or 2. she used Retin A to keep from having breakouts. had she not Been on the Retin A 0.25 % I feel that her acne may have gotten worse. It has always kept her skin clear though up until this past October.suddenly she has started with breakouts from her cheek bones down to her chin and jawline. she went to a dermatologist, and they think its hormonal. they prescribed her dieretic drug , (spiro…something…I forget the spelling exactly) I suggested my daughter not take this medication and try some natural supplements first. she is using a stronger Retin A .1% and I have given her some good vitamins from the vitamin shop for hair skin and nails. do you have any further recommendations? the acne seems a little worse everyday. she just started the vitamins yesterday. Do you recommend the DIM for her everyone mentions above? Thanks for any help. we are so upset about this. we live in Maryland. should I take her to see a specialist in health, and if so what type of health provider would be best?

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- Fran May 13, 2019, 10:31 pm
  
  Hi Nancy, I would love to see her in a consultation please if you can book her in.
  
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Brooke January 28, 2019, 4:30 am

Hi there,

I have a history leaky gut and hyperthyroidism. I’ve had consistent acne since my Endo put me on synthroid (thyroid stimulant) and tapazole (thyroid suppressant) at the same time to try and regulate my thyroid. I stopped the synthroid once I started breaking out. Now I am on a low dose of tapazole. I was on birth control to help with acne for about 5 months, but came off of it due to side effects. It helped with acne but not completely. I have been off of BC for about 3 months, still breaking out, and am a week into taking DIM. I take evening primrose oil, vitamin B complex, zinc, probiotics, and magnesium as well. Wondering if my acne could be thyroid-related?

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- Brooke January 28, 2019, 4:32 am
  
  Forgot to mention I do not eat dairy or gluten and try to maintain a balanced diet!
  
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- Fran May 14, 2019, 2:39 am
  
  Hi Brooke, yes it could be.. .I recommend seeing a local (good) natural therapist that you can work with closely.
  
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Stacy yates January 25, 2019, 12:29 am

Hello! I’m desperately in need of help for hormone balance. When tested, my progesterone and estrogen were low and testosterone was normal. I’m currently on progesterone cream but I’ve gotten terrible acne all around my jaw and cheek area. I’m 42 and probably in perimenopause but still having periods each month although the length of time varies from 24 days to 33 days. The acne is causing so much stress I don’t want to leave the house. Also I’ve had insomnia for 6 months. I’m also hypothyroid. How do I get a consultation and are you a doctor or a specialist in hormones? Thank you.

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- Fran May 14, 2019, 2:51 am
  
  Hi Stacy, 42 is young for perimenopause so you mmay not be. I’d like to know what brand of progesterone cream you’re on and for how long. Book in a consultation and I’d love to begin working with you.
  
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Morgan January 23, 2019, 9:12 pm

Hi! I’ve been reading your blog and appreciate the scientific and holistic approach to how the body works. I’m 26 and have been on hormonal birth control since I was 18. I went on the pill after accutane to help with acne and while it has effectively kept my oily skin relatively clear, it makes me terrified to go off the pill and correctly balance my hormones. As a teen I was crying in dermatologists offices, etc. My question is how can I best prep my skin to get off the pill – I have no idea if I’m high in testosterone, high in estrogen, or what. I did start a magnesium supplement, a probiotic supplement, and recently ordered zinc. I’m at a total loss of how to understand where the imbalance is.

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- Fran May 14, 2019, 2:54 am
  
  Hi Morgan, I can defintely help you – I have a consultation type that specifically helps with this. If you book in this week also there’s a sale on.
  
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Ashley November 27, 2018, 5:51 pm

I’ve taken DIM for years. I take 3 estroblock a day. I’m not sure what my hormones were when I started but now my testosterone is low and estrogen normal
Range. Should I stop them? I have cystic hormonal looking acne on lower cheeks/ chin

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ashley September 18, 2018, 5:10 pm

my body reacts negatively to birth control. ive had mini strokes because of it, neurological twitching , and many other different side effects. these side effects do go away after stopping it. I did get pregnant on two diff types of it as well. I have a 2 and 4 year old. with both my skin was beautiful. I eat very healthy, workout, regularly. Since having my 2 year old acne has come back. I went to the doc and I stupidly listened when he said the only way to balance out my hormones to reduce my acne and fatigue was lo loestrin. I have been on that for 6 months. recently I started seeing similar symptoms of migraines and aura again and other issues so I stopped. and here I am again with 14 year old skin and I am 30. would DIM help? i had blood work done 6 months ago he put me on the pill again. he said everything was considered normal. I do not believe him. ive been seeing a holistic chiropractor on and off for years. this last time ( 2 weeks ago) the chiropractor said my thyroid was definitely off. my doctor said it was fine however. In the past 3 weeks i have been experience a lot of fatigue, nausea, more headaches than normal, hot flashes and not able to sleep well. although 120 lbs does not sound out of shape, i have never been stuck at that weight before either. i have never weighed more than 115. I have not budged from 120 since i hit that last October. nothing is making sense for me.

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- ashley September 18, 2018, 5:17 pm
  
  sorry- not to mention my libido has dropped to nothing over the last 2 years. my poor husband. ugh
  
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- Asia October 31, 2018, 12:10 am
  
  I too am on Lo Loestrin and my breakouts are even worse now. Granted, I abruptly got off of them back in May when I started to develop a rash (which ended up being “HFMD” allegedly)…after that I bled for a month and my gyno told me to get back on the pill to regulate everything. However, now I’m experiencing horrible acne and although I’m prepping myself to get off the pill for good by the end of November, I’m wondering if I should try this supplement now or wait. siiigghhh
  
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- Fran November 27, 2018, 9:07 pm
  
  Hi Ashley, it would be beneficial to you if you were able to see a local natural therapist, somebody that you could work with on a regular basis and seein person. And trust your intuition and insight about not being on the pill.
  
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Moni August 13, 2018, 5:20 am

I have bad cystic acne on my back. I was on birth control pill for nine years and have been off for four years. For two years I have been on estroblock which cleared all cystic acne I got very badly all over my face when I stopped the pill. Cystic back acne is still there. I also have cystic acne under jaw line under ear but not very bad just occasional. Back acne is very bad.. please help what should I do. I still take estroblock everyday.

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- Fran August 28, 2018, 7:10 pm
  
  Hi Moni, I can definitely help you, it sounds like we need to work on your progesterone to estrogen ratio – the DIM only did more of a bandaid treatment. In addition we need to figure out WHY you’re potentially estrogen dominant, if you are. Please book in a consult and let’s get you clear
  
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Olivia August 12, 2018, 6:23 pm

Hi. I am 99% sure the cause of my acne is internal because I have tried sooo many topical treatments. I have a pretty healthy diet (whole foods, no dairy, a lot of water). So, I thought it was hormonal, but my bloodwork for TSH came back normal. Does that mean that it’s NOT hormonal? Or, are there other hormone tests that could find something is off? I am not too familar with what all of the different blood tests mean and the abbreviations for them.

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- Fran August 28, 2018, 7:07 pm
  
  Hi Olivia, there are many more hormones aside from TSH that can be in an imbalance that can cause acne. OR your internal imbalance may not even be hormone related. Book in a consultation, I’d love to help you to get clear 🙂
  
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Steph July 21, 2018, 3:50 pm

Hi Fran!

Thank you for your articles and website, it has helped me tremendously to understand the role of hormones. I’ve been suffering from hormonal cystic acne for the past 10 years. I recently took blood test and my testosterone and DHT seemed within normal range. Same with my progesterone. However, I keep breaking out during ovulation and beginning of my cycle. I tried Saw Palmetto but it helped minimally (only change was bigger breasts). Would a combination of DIM & Spearmint be more beneficial? I feel my breakouts are caused by high androgens during my period.

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- Steph July 21, 2018, 3:52 pm
  
  To the comment above.. I forgot to mention my blood result came with high IGF-1.
  
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- Fran July 27, 2018, 11:19 pm
  
  Hi Steph, we can still have estrogen dominance when our progesterone tested normal, as this possibly could be what’s happening, and in this case saw palmetto would be ineffectife. DIM will help a little but it won’t be addressing the root cause so will eventually just stop working. Book in a consult, I’d love to get to the bottom of this and help you.
  
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Joni July 15, 2018, 9:26 pm

Hey there my name is Joni. My story is I’ve bever struggled with acne until a year ago when I got the Skyla iud for my birth control. I had for about nine months when I started to break out on my cheek and it spread it’s way to my chin and other cheek. After having the iud for a year I had it removed. It has now been 5 months since I’ve removed the iud but still battling with the acne. I have taken probiotics but am still suffering with the horrible acne! Does it sound like Estro Block is something good for me to take? I was referred to it by someone and am about to start taking it but came across your blog and wanted to see what you said. Any advice on what I can do to cure my acne would be appreciated!

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- Fran July 19, 2018, 6:58 pm
  
  Hi Joni, yes try DIM but I’d prefer to put you on a complete protocol, please book in if you can.
  
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Sarah May 14, 2018, 10:30 pm

Hello Fran,

Thank you for the informative post. You seem to be one of very few doctors who acknoelwdge and understand post-pill acne very well. I am struggling with post-pill acne even after 1.5 years coming off the pill. I never had acne problem but I took BC just for 15 days (in Jan 2017) after which acne emerged immediately and slowly turning into full-on cystic acne after 6 months (although my periods returned). I am experimenting with different supplements but Omega 3 and Flaxseed broke me out and Berberine wasn’t good for my heart. I am currently taking zinc and Vitamin D , but I still have acne. I have been avoiding sugar and dairy. My bloodwork is fine except for LH which is 3 times higher than FSH. I have read women’s bodies balancing after a while, but it’s been 1.5 years for me and my battle is still on. I cannot eat Fats as they break me out. I am at my wits’ end and no doctor understands anything. Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot!

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- Fran June 3, 2018, 7:56 pm
  
  Hi Sarah, if your LH is that high there could be something else going on, please book in a consult I’d like to work with you.
  
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Laura April 18, 2018, 12:06 am

I have acne on my cheeks and have had acne since I was 12 years old I am now 36. The only time that I haven’t had acne is when I was pregnant with one of my seven children. So when I’m pregnant my face is pretty clear and now my youngest is 4 years old my acne is coming back very heavy on my cheeks and a little on my chin. I haven’t had a hormone test but I had a metabolic panel that showed that my testosterone levels were in normal range. I’m wondering if I should try dim?

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- Fran April 24, 2018, 12:18 am
  
  Hi Laura, I’m sorry, I’m unclear if your acne was better with all of your 7 pregnancies or just one?
  
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  - Laura April 24, 2018, 3:30 am
    
    Yes during my pregnancies my skin was pretty much clear.
    
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    - Fran April 27, 2018, 8:58 pm
      
      Hi Laura, it’s likely your estrogen to progesterone ratio that needs to be looked at in this case.
      
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Ness March 18, 2018, 2:35 am

Hi Fran i’m wondering if you can take Vitex as well as Estroblock together? would this be ok? just because i personally tend to break out before my period even whilst taking Estroblock? i’m wondering if i should start on the pro fromula(2 a day) perhaps up the dosage and also introduce Vitex (Premula) ? would this maybe be helpful?

I also took a small break from estroblock because i was still breaking out! i thought its not good to have my body rely on the supplement also its very very costly to keep up. This doesn’t seem to have been a good move because my skin has broken out once again.

I’ve followed the program you gave me however I appear to have reached a plato and my skin has cycles of good and bad constantly. Its really annoying and honestly i’m just wanting to give up. I feel maybe it will just all go with age . Im 24 now but maybe once i’m 25 /26 my body will decide to cooperate. my sister had the same issues as me she is now 27 and her skin has calmed down only now. I must be similar to her because she was the same at my age.

I honestly don’t know anymore.

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- Fran March 19, 2018, 5:49 pm
  
  Hi Ness, yes, that is a combination that I often recommend to my clients. However, it is not recommended in all cases so it is better to book in a follow up consultation so that I can take a look. Programs are designed to check in 3-5 months after initial consultations so that I can monitor the progress and tweak the plan if needed.
  
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Allison March 17, 2018, 3:57 am

Hi! I have a question, should one tame DIM + Estroblock, if you were to decide to take it, or just one or the other? I am currently on Spironolactone but it really does not help with my acne, so I wanted to try something a little bit more natural. I have read that some people take both but I’m not sure if it’s best just to start with one or incorporate both.

Thank you in advance for your help.

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- Fran March 19, 2018, 5:47 pm
  
  Hi Allison, DIM is Estroblock, they are the same thing. BUT, you should only take it if you need it, meaning if you have elevated DHT and/or need help with estrogen metabolism. If you are just trying things without knowing why, you are potentially wasting your money and you could make everything worse.
  
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Nathalie February 27, 2018, 7:03 am

Hi ! I am doing a progressive break with my pill (jasminelle) that I m taking since 10 years. I m actually taking one pill every 4 days and for now my Skin is ok ! I would like to Know if I can to a hormonal test now to see if I should take estrobock or no ? I am in FRance and there is nobody able’ to help women who stop their pills here !!!! I really want to avoid the acné disaster after stopping pills… thank you very much

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- Fran March 5, 2018, 3:17 pm
  
  Hi Nathalie, our hormonal system usually doesn’t shift much for about 3 months coming off the pill, so it’s better to wait until the 3-6 month mark after coming off it.
  
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  - Nathalie March 5, 2018, 3:25 pm
    
    Thank you very much ! So I should wait til 3-6 month after having totally stopped pills ?
    And then do all the tests with a endocrinologist ?
    I wanted to know if it’s possible to take estroblock during the progressive stop of my pill ? Is there any side effects ? Could you recommend a authentic website with a good price and delivery to France ?
    
    Thank you so much for you help 🙂
    
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    - Fran March 12, 2018, 12:08 am
      
      Yes, wait that long. You can do a test with a clinic or you can order a saliva test online and do it at home. And yes, it is good to take EB whilst on the pill and for 6 months after. If you would like more help, please book in a consultation.
      
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      - Nathalie March 12, 2018, 11:46 am
        
        Thank you so much for your help !! I am in France so I think it’s going to be very complicated to book a consultation ? Where are you located ?
        I ordered a bottle of Estroblock regular just to give it a try. I hope it will work for me and do not have bad side effects !
        
        Thank so much again
        
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        Fran March 12, 2018, 2:55 pm
        
        I work online so I have clients from all over the world, I’ve worked with many women from France.
        
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        Nathalie March 12, 2018, 3:05 pm
        
        Hi ! That’s great, so I would like to know how much is a consultation ? It’s like 30 minutes ?
        Thank you
        
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        Fran March 19, 2018, 5:46 pm
        
        Hi Nathalie, consultations are $120. They usually only take 20-30 minutes but I allow for up to one hour.
        
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Jessica February 10, 2018, 7:00 pm

Hi, I’m wondering if I should take estroblock. My sister tried it for a couple weeks and said it helped her. I eat healthy, I work out 4-5 days a week, I take vitamin D, and I’ve even tried using esstial oils on my acne for months. My facial skin is clear but my back acne is horrible and I’ve never had this problem before.

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- Fran February 21, 2018, 11:31 pm
  
  Hi Jessica, I can’t say without having a consult with you. EstroBlock is great for women with toxic estrogens and/or elevated DHT only. Also if it does work, you need to rebalancing the underlying reason why there was an imbalance.
  
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christina January 26, 2018, 3:44 pm

Hi Fran,
I’m 44 and have been breaking out all my life with moderate acne, always cystic, and with some major flareups a few times a year. Ortho trip cyclen lo rid me of my acne but side effects outweighed the benefits so I got off and started with vitex which immediately triggered a week long migraine. I did some research and started with 250mg of DIM with BioPerine. I had no idea if it helped bc I still broke out every month at around ovulation and had no no baseline bc I started on it right after the pill. I also felt really extra bloated during ovulation and my breasts hurt a lot. I decided to start back up on Spironolactone. It cleared my acne so well about 10 years ago and then when I stopped it my acne was under control for another year. It was a wonderful time in my life to feel effortlessly clear and normal. So this time I started with just 50mg a day (one in morning and one at night) and so many side effects than before, like gastritis, increased anxiety (I have GAD), and headaches. But I was sick of breakout after breakout and I’m not getting any younger so my skin is not healing itself like it used to. Remarkably I don’t look half bad for a lifelong cystic acne. I am fortunate, but still exhausted with this fight. I decided to go off DIM bc I felt it was making me gain weight and also triggering migraines and possibly making me breakout. As soon as I came off it my skin is as clear as a bell. The spiro is working. BUT, I gained weight and fast, and I look tired everyday, anxiety through the roof, puffy eyes, and my tinnitus came raging back(I always have constant tinnitus but volume was back to when I first got it 2 years ago). SO, I decided to go back on DIM but to try a lower dose, 100mg (Down from 250). My husband immediately noticed I looked glow and I noticed my eyes are less puffy, I felt like I was coming out of my depressed/anxious mode again. I mean I was really down and I child in my town died of flu and I was crying my eyes out for days and had never met him. Just really moody and emotional. I’m certain the DIM is helping to balance my hormones BUT I am breaking out again, very minor though. Not sure what this means. It is ovulation week so historially it’s right on par with what I experienced in the past with DIM during this week. SO, based on this, do you think cutting out DIM for the week of ovulation wold help? I’m not sure I understand the estrogen cycle, if there is such a thing, and if there is, how to keep it steady with DIM or other supplements. I am basing this question on the hormone levels of BCP. Ortho tri cyclen lo has different amounts of hormones in it for each week so maybe applying this to DIM will work somehow. There was one week every month on the ortho that I felt really down and anxious so something is up in my cycle for a week of it every month that causes these dips and changes. Not sure if you can answer this, shed any light or whatever but thought I would share. I also theorize that like many women, my hormones have been a mess all my life and can be attributed to many of my issues, especially as I near menopause. I think it should be taken more seriously and more research needs to be done to understand why millions of women have symptoms like mine.

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- Fran February 7, 2018, 4:40 pm
  
  Hi Christina, actually I think you need to ditch the supplements and start on a good herbal regime, which has been researched extensively.
  
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  - christina February 26, 2018, 6:51 pm
    
    Ditch the DIM? Thanks Fran!
    
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Lindsey January 18, 2018, 6:06 pm

In the trail of comments I was reading you mentioned that chin acne isn’t always androgen related?
Years ago when I was on spironolactone i still got acne on my chin.
. recently starting DIM my acne spread under my jaw line, and sides of cheeks. And my period was less regulated then the first two months off the pill. Also. Light and came later. My OBGYN tested free testosterone and it showed “normal” but on the scale of ranges it was on the higher end. (Testosterone tested on pill)
No longer on BC 4 months

Acne improving but I’m afraid that DIM isn’t right for me. I have decided to stop DIM to see if it could be the cause. Taking less I can see less acne under my jaw line

I take primrose, magnesium chelate, vitamin C. Liver supports. Ashwagandha occassional All have helped me
Sorry this is long.

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- Fran February 7, 2018, 4:36 pm
  
  Hi Lindsey, look into your progesterone:estrgoen, that’s more likely what you need to be working with.
  
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  - Lindsey February 7, 2018, 10:13 pm
    
    Do you recommend getting those tested?
    My progesterone was low but that was while I was on the pill. Estrogen was not tested, although OBGYN said if it was too low I’d have no period.
    
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    - Fran February 21, 2018, 11:32 pm
      
      Hi Lindsey, progesterone is always low on the pill, that is normal. That’s no true, estroen can be low when you still get a cycle, it also depends on what estrogen, we have 40 different types.
      
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      - Lindsey July 14, 2018, 3:35 pm
        
        Hi fran, thanks for taking the time to answer my questions
        
        Looking back on my hormonal testing by my OBGYN, back in 2017 when i was still on the pill. (Ive been off now since sept 2017) it shoes that my DHEA was tested, and it shows that it was higher but still within normal range.
        
        Fast forward to now, I recently started Saw Palmetto just 160mg a day(as i was on spiro for a very long time in the past) and thought that an DHT blocker would be beneficial. Reading more of your blogs and answers to others questions.
        SP can increase testosterone.
        COULD this be a reason i have increase chin acne, BUT i do have decreased in jaw line,cheeks and back acne.
        
        Other beneficial vitamins ive been taking (Mag glyc, b100 complex, omega 3, dessicated liver supplement, adrenal support)-
        thanks again. sorry this is a book.
        
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        Fran July 19, 2018, 6:54 pm
        
        Hi Lindsey, it could be possibly but I can’t tell for sure without having a proper consultation with you.
        
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Cara November 26, 2017, 1:51 am

I was on bc and spironolactone 100 mg for cystic acne, but went off since my migraines got worse. I tried an elimination diet this summer and have been off dairy, gluten and nightshades for 3 months. I have been on Maca since after going off bc my periods were irregular. But due to cystic acne and increased hair growth at chin I tried Estroblock and vitex this summer and ended up missing my period for two months and no real difference in my acne. I went off both and now don’t know what to do next. I have acne at the nape of my neck and at my chin and nose. Curious to know what you recommend.

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- Fran November 27, 2017, 8:37 pm
  
  Hi Cara, please book in a consultation, I’d love to be able to help you with a treatment plan that’s right for you. First off IF you do have a low progesteorne issue you did not take vitex for long enough for it to work. However, I don’t recommend vitex for the first 6 months after coming off the pill. For you however, a combination of blood sugar balancing with rebuilding and supporting the reproductive hormonal system will be ideal.
  
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Mia November 18, 2017, 6:35 pm

Hi! I started taking dim about two weeks ago and while my upper cheek acne seems to be much better, my lower cheeks and jaw/sides of chin are breaking out more. I’m also taking milk thistle and burdock. I’m wondering if the dim is not for me and making me break out more or if it’s normal to see this reaction at first? I’m so desperate to clear my skin. It really messes with my self esteem and gets me down. I also know that it’s a sign of what’s going on inside my body so I definitely want to get it resolved. Thanks for all of the info you share on your website. It’s super helpful!

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- Fran November 20, 2017, 3:29 pm
  
  Hi Mia, how about you book in a consultation so that we can work on getting you clear? DIM may be completely wrong for you, and I cant’ tell without taking a full history and information from you.
  
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Myda November 15, 2017, 7:23 pm

Hi Fran,

I was on birth control (YAZ) for 7 years and it cleared up my acne. I decided to stop taking it last year after having a large fibroid removed. One month after stopping the birth control my cystic acne returned badly. I went to the dermatologist who started me on topical creams that did absolutely nothing and after 3 months of that, I made the decision to go on spironolactone. I gradually went up to a dosage of 100mg a day before I started to see results, and went up to 125mg and that completely cleared up my acne. I have very oily skin and the spiro definitely reduced my oil production. Unfortunately, after 4 months on spiro it started to effect my kidneys, and my potassium levels sky rocketed to a point where my derm called and told to stop taking it and I had to wait about 5 weeks before my levels went back to normal. When that happened I decided to try and modify my diet, and I am on an autoimmune diet (no dairy, gluten, eggs, nightshades) because I also have Hashimoto’s thyroid. I am currently not taking any thyroid medication because my endo said my levels were within the normal range and he didn’t want to prescribe me anything. I tried saw palmetto for one month, but didn’t see any changes so stopped taking it. I am taking a few supplements (zinc, vitamin E, vitamin C, vitamin D, biotin, fish oil) but still have the cystic acne, and I recently added DIM. I have been taking the DIM for 8 weeks and I don’t see any results. I don’t know what my hormone levels are and not sure if I should stop taking the DIM and start taking Vitex or something for progesterone. I am at a loss and don’t know what to do, the only option left at this point is Accutane. Can you let me know what you think?

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- Fran November 20, 2017, 3:27 pm
  
  Hi Myda, with hashmitos you have to watch your blood sugar levels and testosterone, which is why the spiro worked. The plans you have been doing so far are not target the correct imbalance. Book in for a consultation and I can get you onto a natural treatment plan that will work, accutane is not the only option left.
  
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Wendy Burden November 4, 2017, 9:59 am

Forgot to say my daughter is now 22 yrs ! Thyroid tests look normal , but they are now looking at free T3 & cortisol & thyroid antibodies. We are awaiting th results. They do not expect them to abnormal. She is highly anxiously person from birth & sleep problems from birth. Also night terrors from birth until puberty. Then the anxiety & depression in adult form started. She has difficulty regulating her emotions especially anger. Is this all just mental health problem as some doctors have said & the hormone imbalances are a result of that or do you think something more is goin on ? She has been pushed to every department as fits none of their true criteria despite being labelled mildly autistic , midly BPD & emotional dysregulation

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- Fran November 9, 2017, 6:59 pm
  
  Hi Wendy, I would try her on herbal treatment as progesterone cream and patches tend not to take to as many women as herbs do. Check her for pyroluria and at a guess from ther very little I know about her it’s likely that she has adrenal fatigue which is causing the low progesterone. Just as a side note, a 32 day cycle is perfectly healthy. I highly recommend that you find a really good and recommended natural therapist that you can work with locally to help with her emotional issues – Chinese Herbalist and accupuncturist might be a good way to go with her. But do consider the pyroluria test.
  
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  - Wendy Burden November 11, 2017, 11:25 am
    
    Hi fran,
    
    Thank you so much for taking the time to answer me ! What you said about pyroluria makes such sense, both rosie and totally related to many of the issues but rosie in particular ticked almost every box !! We are starting immediately in the supplements that support as although rosie has been taking zinc & B6 both have been in the wrong form & nowhere near enough B6. As well as taking the zinc recently we didnalso start on magnesium L threonate 300mg a day but I can see we might need more. We realise that if she gets tested whilst supplementing it may not show up , but she is very keen to get started and take things that might help. She’s also just started evening primrose oil is this ok , as it is high in omega 6 ? I find there is so much conflicting information about what to eat & what to supplement sometimes which is probably why we need a good naturopath but they are hard to find & cost a lot ! What would you say is a good protein source for rosie as a vegan ? She has organic b12 oral spray & same for vit D ( also has k2 & plant omegas in it) & C so these are no longer deficient , bust I have read it’s not good to eat things from the legume family pulses, beans etc. Rosie practically lives off chickpeas & hummus ! I have also started giving her a teaspoon of organic black seed oil. Thank you ,love your website Wendy
    
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Wendy Burden November 4, 2017, 9:53 am

My daughter has acne since 12 yrs & a cycle length of 32 days naturally & scant period. Her bloods consistently show low estrogen & progesterone but testosterone & androgens still fall within the normal range but on the higher end. She has been put on bio identical estrogen skin patch & vaginal progesterone. She is still getting acne , she has it on her cheeks as well as elsewhere and it is moderate. Her skin is very oily & thin hair but no excess hair growth elsewhere. She is normal weight but has anxiety & depression & terrible fatigue , if she wakes early she feels sick , her body doesn’t function till later in the day & then will have trouble falling asleep & sometimes staying asleep as wakes frequently for toilet ( urine) trips. Do you think you can help her ? We live in the U.K.

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Jessie October 31, 2017, 5:55 pm

I have a question I hope you can answer. I switched from oral BC pills to an IUD in January. Since then I have went from virtually no acne to mild breakouts on my chin and jawline. Would this most likely mean that my testosterone has increased causing the acne? And if that is the case, DIM would make the breakouts worse? I’m so confused because I have read another article written by a woman in the same scenario as me (switched from BC pills to IUD) and the DIM helped her acne that came about after that switch.

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- Fran November 9, 2017, 6:54 pm
  
  Hi Jessie, it depends what BCP it was and what IUD you have. I recommend DIM to all women on synthetic birth control, but if what you’re using is now androgenic and you want to stay on synthetic birth control, then why not just switch back.
  
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Dana October 28, 2017, 1:39 pm

Hey.
I am 19.5 years old and im suffering from acna about 3 years.
I took Roaccutane 2 times and the brackouts always came back.
Then I tried birth control Diana 35 that really halped, but made me gain weight so i changed it to “Yaz”. The first two months were good but now the breackouts came out again.. I think its because I have a lot of pressure because I didnt lose any weight..
I really want to find a natural why to balance my hormons so i dont have to use those birth control that makes me gain weight
How can I check if my problem is because I have more estrogen or more testosterone in my body? And what else would you recommend me to use instead of DIM esrtoblock? I am really suffering and my biggest dream is to get rid of this acne problem.. I feel so lost 🙁
Thank you

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- Fran November 9, 2017, 6:52 pm
  
  Hi Dana, it is one of the more common side effects to experience weight gain on the birth control pill. I don’t recommend getting a hormone test done for the first 6 months after coming off the pill. I can definitely help you, please book in a consultation and let’s get started.
  
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Dee October 27, 2017, 5:03 pm

Hi Fran, btw I love your website, so informative!! I am 42 years old and I started getting acne in my late teens after I got married. It was an on and off battle with it since than. I had been on proactive for a long time which seemed to help but the acne always came back and I would have to go on antibiotics to get rid of them, which they did. I decided to stop proactive as I wanted to switch to more natural products. Tried bunch of natural oils and they really helped the overall texture of my skin but ended up clogging my pores quite a bit. I had been on the mirena IUD for 12 years so got that removed end of July. The acne kept on coming back, but now after 3 months it is crazy. I never had this many popping up at this rate. There are 5-6 active cysts every single day and some don’t dry out no matter what I put on them. I tried antibiotics for a week and they made me dizzy and have blurred vision. So I stopped. I am taking zinc, magnesium, cod liver oil and vit c supplements. I eat very healthy and drink tons of water. Gave up coffee, alcohol, sugar etc. Please help..

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- Fran November 9, 2017, 6:51 pm
  
  Hi Dee, this is a normal reaction for coming off synthetic hormone birth control. I recommend doing an estrogen detox and making sure you’re eating plenty of organic food, organic meats, a range of vegetables including dark leafy greens, drinking lots of water and supporting yourself emotionally. Please feel free to book in a consultation, I’d be happy to guide you through it.
  
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thessy October 21, 2017, 8:26 am

My acne have refused to go no matter what I use, though have not tried any pills but have us Oxyl 10 (benzoyl peroxide)… I once had break out 2 years ago and all I used was panoxyl 10, which works perfectly well for me, so this time all my search for panoxyl 10 prove abortive, so I went for Oxy 10 but instead the break out is just increasing with so much rash + Acne (pimples) on my face… am confused, have used several home remedies and so many other things all to no avail… what to do?

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- Fran October 26, 2017, 3:14 pm
  
  Hi Thessy, the problem is you’re working on your skin at the surface external level only, and not working on the imbalance (the root cause). Please book in a consultation and let’s get you onto a good treatment plan.
  
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Arielle October 3, 2017, 8:55 pm

Hi there,

I know this is an old post but I ran across it when researching my acne. I’ve had acne for years and am currently taking 100mg of spiro. I don’t like taking it because it does give me some anxiety and it hasn’t 100 percent cleared my acne. I am still getting cysts on my chin and ive been on it since May. I haven’t gone back to the derm because I feel she just wants to put me on meds and not even test my blood or anything. Do you know if its safe to take Dim and spiro at the same time? I cant find anything online about it.

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:30 am
  
  Hi Arielle, I have a sale on right now if you want to book in a consult! There are natural alternatives to spiro that are just as affective, and chin acne is not usually androgen related. There’s actually no point taking DIM as well, as it won’t be doing much more than spiro is doing UNLESS you need an estrogen detox.
  
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Adi October 1, 2017, 11:36 pm

Hi Fran, I was able to keep my acne under control while on Ultra-Low Dose BCP. I lately decided to get an IUD (skyla) instead and stop taking BCP. My hormonal acne has become drastically worse and I am not sure if it is because of the IUD, or simply because I stopped taking BCP. From your experience, what could be the cause (IUD or lack of BCP), and would DIM help me with my acne knowing BCP did?

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:33 am
  
  Hi Adi, some synethetic birth controls block androgens, and other raise androgens, I don’t know off the top of my head which skyla is but I’m willing to bet that it’s raising your androgen levels and causing your acne. I do recommend all women on synthetic birth control to take a low dosage of DIM, and then a higher dosage for 6 months after stopping the birth control.
  
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Natalie September 28, 2017, 9:10 pm

Hello Fran,

Thank you for this article! I would like a consultation, but figured I should get my hormones tested first as a point of reference. I have researched the benefits of saliva, urine, and blood, but still do not know which is best. What do you recommend? Also, I noticed it is very difficult to get DHT levels tested as it is not typically included in testing panels and must be requested separately (and very expensive). I have persistent jaw line acne and a history of high testosterone from a previous saliva hormone test (2012), and therefore assume my acne due to a hormone imbalance. Is it possible to effectively treat my acne without knowing what my DHT levels are? Thank you!

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:35 am
  
  Hi Natalie, it’s really necessary to get testing done, after working with thousands of women I usually guess the hormone test result before I see it. If you had high testosterone then it’s likely that your DHT was high back then as well.
  
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Natalie September 24, 2017, 3:53 am

Would you recommend dim to someone with elevated estrogen / low progesterone and elevated testosterone as well ?

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:36 am
  
  No, I do not recommend DIM to women with elevated testosterone. In this case it is better to focus on the progesterone boosting and lowering testosterone.
  
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Becca September 24, 2017, 3:40 am

I have hormonal acne and Several yrs ago had been on Spironolactone and it helped clear it up. The acne is back but I had my hormones tested about a yr ago and my testosterone was low as well as perimenopausal. I took DIM recently and my last cycle was 54 days and then when I did start it went from my normal 3-4 days to 14!! Is that something DIM caused? Since I’m perimenopausal I’ve only had varying cycle lengths anywhere from 28-45 days not 54 and not 14 days!

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:37 am
  
  Hi Becca, when we’re perimenopausal all sorts of strange things can happen with our cycle. It is unlikely the DIM and actually DIM is recommended to take through this transition. Try using a wild yam cream as well to help you through. At the same time, I do recommend that you visit a local doctor to just check in that all is good after the 14 day bleed, as it is unusually long for you.
  
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Sheryl Coonan September 19, 2017, 8:03 pm

Hi Fran,
Great, insightful article. I am 38 years old, not on birth control (for about four years). And recently I have chin, jawline acne, thinning hair and excess hair (blond) on arms and face. Periods keep coming about a week early, too. I take Estroblock (I have ovarian cysts and estrogen dominance) and and adrenal supplement from my functional medicine doctor. Also, on my own, I started taking LivDetox and Saw palmette (read that it can control acne). Not sure if this is the right protocol or if I ‘m making symptoms worse. Would love to clear my skin, regrow my hair and shed some stubborn pounds particular in the stomach area.

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:39 am
  
  Hi Sheryl, are you able to book in a consultation? I would like to check in properly with you to see if this is the correct protocol for you.
  
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Chris September 12, 2017, 4:24 pm

Hi Fran, I switched from combination birth control pills to the Skyla IUD about 7 months ago, and my skin is still breaking out like crazy. Is DIM something you’d recommend taking while on an IUD? Or is there something else that would be better? Thanks!

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:41 am
  
  Ooh I think I already answered this one in a different thread?
  
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Lau September 11, 2017, 3:58 pm

Hi,

I am currenlty on my 4th year of taking birth control, diane35 (on and off). And what I find confusing– some sort of a REALLY grey area for me– is how does it cure my acne and bleeding(mens)? It is because I want to get off of it because of mood swings etc. I mean, what does the birth pill do to make my skin clear, and let me have regular flow? I want to find out because it’s been my third OBGYN whose prescribed me with Diane35 and Metformin.

Can probiotics be a substitiute? DIM? Milk thistle? Vitamins? I tried EPO, Vit D3, Zinc, NAC, Vit A, all of which made me go back to the pill, because I still have breakouts (around the jaw and lower left cheek). I am extremely confused. I tried searching it on google, but maybe because of my word choices, it couldn’t bring me the answer I needed.

Thank you!

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:42 am
  
  Hi Lau, diane35 is an androgen blocker. Also, your cycle on the pill is not a real cycle, it’s a breakthrough bleed which is basically a fake menstrual cycle which they include with the pill so that women still feel like women. Originally there were no sugar pills and women felt wierd not having a bleed each month. I can help you to come off the pill acne free, book in a consultation.
  
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Eva September 10, 2017, 1:04 pm

Hi
For the last 2 weeks I’ve been taking Estroblock regular and have been breaking out a bit more than usual. Is this normal at the beginning? or has it not been long enough and could the breakouts unrelated? I’m currently taking 50mg of spiro which has helped. I was on the pill for several years and got off it 2 years ago but have had bad acne pretty much the whole time. I have really bad pms symptoms and mood swings but don’t have any issues with weight or metabolism and have been quite underweight in the past – could this be a sign of low estrogen? Hope you can help!

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:43 am
  
  Hi Eva, yes this can be a normal reaction. If you can book in a consultation I would love to work on your progesterone to help not only your acne but also your cycle and PMS.
  
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Cheryl September 10, 2017, 5:42 am

Hi,
I was looking into taking DIM but as I read this article it may not be right me. I recently stopped taking birth control and spironolactone about 5 months ago and noticed severe breakouts begin after 5 months with no medication. Spirolactone is the only thing that has ever cured me of acne with flawless skin but the side effects aren’t worth it and I don’t want to be on medication like this long term so I’m trying to find a natural way to help cure my acne. I think my hormones are really crazy right now after quitting both medications at the same time. Do you have any recommendations as to the best supplements that might work for me?

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:44 am
  
  Hi Cheryl, yes DIM will likely be good for you but I can’t tell without having a proper chat with you. It sounds like you may need a progesterone treatment as well.
  
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evany September 6, 2017, 7:22 am

hi fran, i took DHT Block (same brand as EstroBlock) for two and a half months to target my chin acne. the chin acne somewhat improved and so did any ingrown hairs that i had on my legs and back of my arms. i also noticed the hairs on my fingers started to grow out more which is strange. BUT once i noticed that i was developing clogged pores on my forehead, side burn areas, and jawline, i weaned off the DHT Block. i never had these clogged pores to begin with. now im wondering how to clear the clogged pores up. what do u suggest? should i switch to EstroBlock? take Evening Primrose Oil to balance my hormones? im sure the DHT Block caused this reaction on my skin.

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:46 am
  
  Hi Evany, it may have boosted your testosterone too high. I’d quite the aromatase inhibitors for now and focus on what’s really causing your acne. If you can book in a consultation I’d love to take a look.
  
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Jeannie September 2, 2017, 4:50 pm

Hi Fran,
I stopped Depo Provera 8 months ago after 24 years! I am 38 years old and I’m breaking out with cystic acne on my chin. My saliva test shows estrogen, DHT and testosterone on the low range of normal, but my progesterone is extremely low. I cannot tolerate Prometrium. Would DIM possibly benefit me? Thank you so much for your time!

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:48 am
  
  Hi Jeannie, yes these are normal test results for stopping synthetic birth control. DIM would potentially be only just one piece of the puzzle. If you can book in I’d love to work with you.
  
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Marie Noel August 25, 2017, 11:07 pm

Hi Fran,
Does taking Estroblock prevent from getting pregnant? I have been trying for over 4 years. Did IVF, inemination nothing works. Doctor doesn’t understand why I believe its hormonal. I have bad acne and mood swing and honestly Estroblock has made wonders for me. I’m just wondering if it might lower my chance of getting pregnant. Thanks!

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 12:50 am
  
  Hi Marie, absolutely not, you can definitely still get pregnant when taking EstroBlock.
  
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O. August 10, 2017, 2:40 pm

Hi,

Is there a “body addiction” to DIM?
what happens when stopping?

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- Fran October 4, 2017, 1:02 am
  
  Hi, no there is not.
  
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Elena July 27, 2017, 10:11 pm

Hi, great article. I started taking Estroblock Pro four months ago for hormonal acne which started suddenly after beginning thyroid replacement therapy. My acne has cleared…not sure if it was the Estroblock or just getting used to thyroid replacement, but I’m happy! However, I recently ran out and my delivery of Estroblock was delayed so I haven’t had any in over a week. My period is also over a week late. Negative pregnancy test. To your knowledge, can stopping DIM suddenly cause a rise in estrogen and/or progesterone, maybe causing a delay in withdrawal bleed? Periods have always been regular. Thank you!

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- Fran July 28, 2017, 6:37 pm
  
  Hi Elena, DIM does not affect progesterone, only oestrogen’s and androgens (testosterone and DHT), and then of course their pathway hormones. Stopping EstroBlock can cause a difference in these hormones, however, it is highly unlikely to cause a delayed ovulation.
  
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Kay July 19, 2017, 6:27 pm

Hi Fran,

I’ve been suffering from cystic acne for the past year. I’ve been to the dermatologist numerous times but my condition continues to worsen. I’m currently using Spirinolactone 100mg once a day and benzoyl peroxide/erythromycin twice a day. No improvement. I take neem oil pills and oil of oregano (for the past 3 weeks) but my condition is not improving one bit. My dermatologist did tests and my testosterone (was normal before I started taking Spirinolactone), DHEA and thyroid (tested multiple times before taking Spirinolactone) are all normal.

My GYN prescribed birth control but I don’t want to take it because I don’t know if my acne is hormonal. I asked her to take tests and all she said was take the birth control and if my hormones are the cause of acne then I will see an improvement. She doesn’t want to do it prior to me taking the birth control.

Do you recommend DIM (Estroblock) or something else? I have horrible acne and scarring. I can’t even recognize myself. I’m also trying to stay away from accutane.

Thank you.

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- Fran July 20, 2017, 4:46 pm
  
  Hi Kay, are you able to book in a consultation? It is impossible for me to give you a treatment plan without asking you a bunch of questions first.
  
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Kelly July 19, 2017, 12:50 am

Hi there…maybe you can help me. (Stupidly…in hindsight) I took the Plan B pill back in March and noticed some unexplained weight gain, specifically in my hips and butt. I am a healthy eater and work out regularly so gaining this weight is abnormal for me. If I do gain a few pounds, I always know why (too much peanut butter ;-). To my knowledge my hormones were regular and no menstual issues and no acne. After doing some research, I learned that DIM can help balance out my hormones after the pill caused an imbalance. I started that about a month later in April. I do not feel a bit of difference in the weight area, in fact I feel like I keep getting bigger in all the areas women gain weight. It may not be noticeable to others, but I know. In a week my weight has fluctuated so much to me feeling like finally, it’s working to, why am I blowing up again? So, my question is (and I can’t find any info online…that I can understand), is the DIM doing more harm than good? I take a 200mg dosage daily since April. I eat (in supplement form) at least 30 different fruits and veggies in a day, so I do get lots of phytonutrients. I have not been to the doctor at all, just thought you might be able to shed some light on all of this. I appreciate your time. Thanks!

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- Fran July 20, 2017, 4:44 pm
  
  Hi Kelly, yes this is typical for DIM as it can cause water retention which feels like weight gain in the breast, stomach and thigh/buttock area.
  
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Natalie July 17, 2017, 11:03 pm

Hi, I”ve been wanting to try the dht block supplement from estroblock brand but after reading your article i am hesitant because i have elevated testosterone levels. I am already taking saw palmetto which may be contributing, but I’ve tried going off and that makes things 100x worse. if this will not help, what do you recommend supplement wise for women with elevated testosterone ?

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- Fran July 20, 2017, 4:42 pm
  
  Hi Natalie, DHT blockers are not advisable for women with elevated testosterone. And yes, saw palmetto is a DHT blocker so not advisable either. I recommend you work on balancing your blood sugar instead.
  
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Angela July 6, 2017, 8:43 pm

Hi Fran,

About 9 months ago, I was on Orthotricycline (and 7 weeks pregnant at the time), which sent my hormones into chaos. After my cystic acne was triggered and heavy bleeding that lasted for one month straight, I had a blood test done. Turns out the birth control was competing with my natural hormones (or could be perimenopause, but I have to do another follow-up to see), causing my estrogen and progesterone to drop to low levels. My androgen and testosterone were at normal levels. However, I’m curious if this would help for someone with low estrogen and progesterone… what do you think?

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- Fran July 6, 2017, 11:43 pm
  
  Hi Angela, this is normal – the BCP suppressed our progesterone and some of our estrogens, that’s how it works. I have seen MANY hormone test results like this. And yes, I have worked with many women both on and just after coming off the pill.
  
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Kadri July 5, 2017, 5:13 pm

Dear Fran!
Please advise me. My house doctor didn’t believe in the severity or necessity to send me to test my hormones even though I have gone through a long and mentally distressing journey of acne since early teenage years. Quickly to the point. I have really oily skin but with eating healthy and trying not to overcare, sunshine and some herbal or vitamin supplements I have managed to bring my skin under control. The worst part is always before period. But that’s that.
But because of the oiliness, some dark hairs at strange places, PMS and anxiety I though I should try Vitex. I have taken it for three month or more, 400mg a day. And my skin has been looking really the best I’ve seen it for ages but every following month before my period it has become a bigger mayhem than ever which resembles mid-teens (now 28). A really blistery type of acne rash for days a week before the period. (I haven’t had cystic acne since I did Accutane maybe 7 years ago).
My period has stayed more or less in schedule, but I also believe I’ve been gaining weight on by belly and under my chin (and I eat healthy and as much as I did before), I still have PMS, and maybe even more dark hairs at places where I had less before.
It’s really dissapointing because I can’t know what is going on inside me and from one side I almost reached the sky by having days that I don’t need make-up anymore. And now this worsening period acne.
I am going to stop Vitex for now because I’m mentally not ready to face the next pimple-party again. Have you ever encountered something like this? Do you might have a theory for this?
I also still want to try one last thing-Estroblock since it aims oestrogen’s not progesterone. I only can hope that my issue is there.
Sorry for the long post but I had to ask…
Thanks for reading and I hope you can answer!

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- Fran July 6, 2017, 11:42 pm
  
  Hi Kadri, are you able to book in a constellation? I have many questions that I need to ask you before I can advise on the best course of action.
  
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Bryony June 29, 2017, 1:44 am

Hi Fran, I’m so glad I found your site to help me with the decision of trying estroblock! I was just wondering if you think it’s best to take estroblock on its own, or if you advise also taking the liver and dht block in conjunction with the estroblock? Thanks!

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- Fran July 6, 2017, 11:37 pm
  
  Hi Bryony, For most women taking EB on its own is fine. I only recommend liver support if you have side effects (which is uncommon).
  
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Amy Baker June 22, 2017, 2:33 am

Hi! Thanks for this article. I have a quick question for you. I went off birth control pills about a year ago. My skin was bad before (acne), cleared up on the pill, and now bad again. I did a saliva test. I have high estrogen, low progesterone, high androgens. Would taking DIM and using a small dose of progesterone cream help me? Thanks so much.

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- Fran June 27, 2017, 1:35 am
  
  Hi Amy, it depends on what androgens were high. But yes, I highly recommend a progesterone treatment, also a test for PCOS.
  
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Chrissy June 20, 2017, 9:28 pm

Hi Fran! I’m 27 and came off combination birth control pills 5 months ago after being on them for 10 years straight. Recently I started breaking out like crazy! Do you think Estroblock would be a good thing to take? Thanks!

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- Fran June 27, 2017, 1:30 am
  
  Hi Chrissy, you may need more than estroblock but yes I definitely recommend it, along with a multi-vitamin for a 6 month period.
  
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Lindsey June 17, 2017, 3:12 pm

Hi Fran!

I have been dealing with breakouts since having my first son 4 years ago and my second one year ago. Prior to pregnancy and breastfeeding, I always had really clear skin. I also have almost zero libido (was always on the low side though). I am curious if estroblock would be a good thing to consider. I am also breastfeeding my youngest so I’m wondering if it safe for him.

Thank you!

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- Fran June 27, 2017, 1:28 am
  
  Hi Lindsey, it really depends on what hormonal imbalance (if any) that you have. Please either book in a consultation or visit a local naturopath so that you can get a proper assessment.
  
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Natalie June 12, 2017, 1:43 am

Can pregnant woman take dim?

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- Fran June 17, 2017, 1:36 am
  
  Yes Natalie that’s fine, however just one capsules of regular strength.
  
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stacey May 29, 2017, 2:58 am

Hello,
I want to take estroblock and a liver support supplement to treat melasma and stubborn fat. Is this a good idea? I am currently on a low dose birth control pill and have developed melasma several years ago due to estrogen and UV exposure. I am using topical retinol products etc…the melasma is lighter but hoping that estroblock wont make it worse.
Thank you

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- stacey May 29, 2017, 5:07 am
  
  Further to my post above I am concerned that estroblock will raise my testosterone levels, should I be worried about this or does it balance all hormones? If so, is there an additional supplement I should take to compliment estroblock.
  Thanks again.
  
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  - Fran June 17, 2017, 1:30 am
    
    Hi Stacey, DIM blocks the conversion of testosterone into DHT, for some women this creates higher levels of testosterone, and for others the excess gets turned into oestrogens. We won’t know how your body responds until you try it.
    
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- Fran June 17, 2017, 1:29 am
  
  Hi Stacey, I recommend that you visit a local natural therapist to work with your melasma.
  
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Sarah May 18, 2017, 3:23 am

Hi Fran,

I am 27 years old and have been on the pill for 1 year (previously was off it for 3 years and before that I was on other pills for approximately 6-7 years) came off Yaz pill abut 2 weeks ago and I’m terrified that my skin is going to break out like crazy. I have been getting the odd spot or two, but I just worry that its going to get gradually worse (last year I suffered terrible acne).

My question is…should I start taking DIM, even if I haven’t had hormone tests, but have been on the pill? Also which one do you recommend, because there seems to be a few different types and brands out there? Lastly I saw in another post that you said not to take zinc in combination with this and other vitamins, I am currently taking a good quality zinc supplement and have been doing so for 6 months or so, should I stop taking it?

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- Fran May 23, 2017, 6:32 pm
  
  Hi Sarah, I have a consultation type specifically to help women to come off the pill. How about you book in and we work together?
  
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  - Sarah May 24, 2017, 9:02 am
    
    Hi Fran,
    
    Ok great I think that is probably what I need to do. Before I book my appointment with you, what tests would you recommend that I get done before I come to see you? As I have had tests done in the past and they seem to just run a standard panel and just say everything is normal! Therefore I don’t get a full picture of what’s going on.
    
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    - Fran June 17, 2017, 1:29 am
      
      Hi Sarah, you don’t need to get any testing done before an appointment. If I feel that you need testing done then we can get them done after our consultation – but in most cases it is not needed.
      
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Maddie May 8, 2017, 5:32 am

Hi Fran,
I just wanted your opinion on if I should purchase Estroblock. I am 29, came of the pill for 3 months to do hormone testing. I have had cystic acne along the jaw line for around a year that just wont get better, my skin complexion is horrible since I also quit smoking and came of champix in Jan this year, at the same time I stopped my pill. My acne has been horrible. Inflammatory, cystic and sore. Forehead and mostly lower part of face/Jaw. The naturopath said looking at me she would think I have elevated estrogen, low progesterone and she thinks low testosterone. My bloods last year – mid cycle day 14 – showed elevated progesterone and really low progesterone and my bloods last month – day 4 – Prog 0.7, Oest – 112 and Test- 0.3. So “normal” but still on the low end?

My friend took estroblock and within a week her skin was almost clear – She had the same looking acne as me, just minus the cystic ones. Please help me.
Maddie

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- Fran May 17, 2017, 3:59 pm
  
  Hi Maddie, I recommend EstroBlock to all women after coming off the pill (and during taking it actually). BUT EstroBlock will NOT raise your progesterone which is very, very important for your health. I highly recommend working on raising your progesterone as well.
  
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Mandy Peck April 23, 2017, 8:09 pm

I am 44 years old. Suffered from acne since age 15. On & off birth control and 200mg of spironolactone for years. I am currently off spiro and taking 100mg of doxycycline and topical Retin A cream. My face is SO oily and acne everywhere including jaw and chin. I just had a hormone blood panel done: Total Testosterone 5 and Free Testosterone 0.9, DHEA Serum 133, Estradiol 36.9, Progesterone 5.0 and Estrogen 91.
Would EstroBlock work for me with very low testosterone levels?

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- Fran April 27, 2017, 1:33 am
  
  Hi Mandy, EstroBlock is only useful IF you are high in DHT and/or bad oestrogen’s which you were not tested for.
  
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Lacey April 6, 2017, 8:53 pm

Before I got pregnant I was taking spironalactone, along with topical epiduo and was on birth control (Yaz). I stopped all of this about 2 months before getting pregnant. My skin was fine until I was about 12 weeks pregnant. All of a sudden it broke out horribly. I have been trying everything my doctor says I can topically (I don’t feel comfortable taking antibiotics while pregnant and that is the only oral medical she has said is ok to take). I’ve heard DIM is ok to take while pregnant and I’m wondering if you would suggest I try that? I’m 28 weeks pregnant now and my acne has just gotten worse and worse.

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- Fran April 18, 2017, 3:12 pm
  
  Hi Lacey, yes DIM at just one capsule of regular strength is safe to take during pregnancy. But I recommend that you focus on blood sugar balancing primarily.
  
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Shannon Glover March 31, 2017, 2:51 pm

Hi Fran!

I have a question. I did a saliva hormone test. I had high estradiol, high cortisol at night and low in the morning and normal progesterone. My testosterone was also normal. I was dealing with estrogen dominant symptoms like insomnia, bloating/weight gain in my thighs and bottom, headaches and moodiness. I started the EstroBlock about 3 weeks ago and it has helped a ton with these symptoms but I have broken out a lot when I didn’t break out that much before. Is there a way I can keep taking the EstroBlock but also minimize breakouts? Is this just an initial breakout? Thanks in advance!

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- Fran April 18, 2017, 3:06 pm
  
  Hi Shannon, sometimes it takes up to 3 months to work fully, however, I encourage you to book in a consultation so that we can see if there’s something that has been missed in your treatment.
  
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Kelly March 21, 2017, 5:01 pm

My daughter is 14, has had a horrible episode of break out, large cyst under eye so inflamed it pushed her eye shut and now is smaller (dermo put her on doxycycline 11 days ago, she gets upset stomach and is taking 2 a day, would love to take her off but hoping they make a difference), she has flare ups before periods and I just want to get her in check and at a more controlled place, she uses Exposed skin care routine and takes probiotic. I was reading up on the Estro Block (we are in California) and also the Thorne SAT Liver support….no idea if she is too young for these or of any side effects at her age…feel so helpless and sad for her to go through this, she has even stayed home from school due to kids asking and staring….uggg
Any help is so so appreciated!
Kelly

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- Fran March 27, 2017, 3:54 pm
  
  Hi Kelly, I recommend getting her on a low glycemic index diet and get her taking colloidal silver daily. Book in with a local natural therapist, as vitex Agnus-castus may be a good herb for her but good to start working with someone local.
  
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Shirley March 19, 2017, 6:13 am

Hey Fran!

I went of birth control about 3 months ago and I have been getting acne since then. I started taking b vitamins, zinc, evening primrose oil, a good probiotic, and vitex daily but still my acne has not cleared up. A few days ago I decided to start taking DIM. I’m hoping this will help me. My only concern is that how would I know if I am estrogen dominant? Are there specific symptoms I should look for? Also what time of the day would u recommend taking DIM? And when would I start seeing results if it does work?

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- Fran March 20, 2017, 3:06 pm
  
  Hi Shirley, your protocol is not good, DIM should help but I do not recommend taking the vitex or zinc.
  
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Ari B March 19, 2017, 5:59 am

Hi Fran!
Since I began taking Estroblock, the skin on my upper lip has turned a darker colour. It’s merely cosmetic, no pain or anything, but could Estroblock be causing this?! I’ve read up that at common in pregnant women with hormonal changes. Should I stop taking Estroblock? Thank you so much for your time and for sharing your wealth of knowledge. With thanks, A

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- Fran March 20, 2017, 3:05 pm
  
  Hi Ari, if it’s melasma then yes EstroBlock could potentially be linked, although usually DIM stops and helps to prevent melasma. I recommend that you stop with the EstroBlock to see if it clears up.
  
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Chelsea March 16, 2017, 5:29 am

Hi Fran. I got by hormone test back and I have extremely high Estrogen levels, low progesterone levels and my testosterone is a little bit higher than it should be. So I know Dim is going to help me. However im currently taking a liver detox powder, a specific liquid herb mix that I know contains vitex and paw salmetto and a supplement called fem balance, all which my naturopath gave to me. My concern is that the dim within the fem balance brand is too weak. It sais it is bio available dim but there is only 13.5mg in each cap ( I am taking two a day). Do you think this is a sufficient amount to really clear out the excess estrogen?? (it was literally off the charts) I am 18 years old by the way :).

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- Fran March 20, 2017, 3:03 pm
  
  Hi Chelsea, please be careful with DIM and EstroBlock when you have high testosterone, as DIM can make your testosterone levels even higher. You are already taking an aramotase inhibitor (saw palmetto) which is blocking the conversion of testosterone into DHT and therefore potentially causing even higher elevated levels of either testosterone or estrogens.
  
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  - Chelsea March 21, 2017, 12:58 pm
    
    hey Fran thanks for the info, and all the advice u give on this page plus all the comments!! My understanding was that L probably had a small amount of elevated testosterone levels due to my super high estrogen levels. what do you suggest then if dim is not the answer?
    
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    - Fran March 27, 2017, 3:50 pm
      
      Hi Chelsea,
      
      Please book in for a treatment plan so that I can advise you correctly.
      
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Maria March 16, 2017, 1:03 am

Hey! I just had a question I hope you could help me with. I was on spironolactone and wanted to come off to heal my acne naturally, so I started taking estroblock. It worked great! For about a year and a half… then one day it just all went down hill. My acne quickly came back over a month and it was the worst it had ever been… I kept taking the estroblock but it was clear it had stopped working 🙁
Why do you think estroblock would do this? It’s so disappointing!
I would love to set up a skype session with you, just don’t have the funds right now
Thanks for your help!

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- Fran March 20, 2017, 3:01 pm
  
  Hi Maria, consider getting a progesterone test, sometimes taking EstroBlock can temporarily correct estrogen dominance but if our progesterone is too low it will eventually stop working. But I could be wrong in your case so best to get tested.
  
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- victoria June 4, 2018, 11:50 am
  
  Hey Maria,
  
  This sounds EXACTLY like what is happening to me right now, down to the timing and everything. Do you mind me asking if you ended up figuring it out and what you ended up doing? I would love to hear as I’m really really frustrated and depressed. Thank you so much
  
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Ashley February 24, 2017, 5:33 pm

Ok so a couple pf questions. I take Loovral a hormonal birth control and have had some issues with hair loss and occasional acne but mostly just feeling bloated and irritable. Could this help me? Should I have hormones tested or can you test hormones while on bc pills. What are your thought on supplements like DHEA while on bc pills and can you test DHT while on the pill?

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- Fran February 25, 2017, 7:26 pm
  
  Yes, a DIM supplement will help you.
  
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Becky February 22, 2017, 5:17 am

Hi Fran,
I took birth control for several years and when I went off (which has been about 3yrs) I broke out like crazy, and continue too. I can not control it where ive been contemplating going back on. I also felt that birth control controlled some of my weight. I kept going on and off and finally just went off the bc pill as I thought my symptoms would pass (plus the bc pill was giving me high blood pressure whcih spiked my colitis) I started researching what is in the pill that had the benifiets that I wanted. I am still unclear, I seen Estroblock has benifiets as estorgen does and helps with exssive sebrum which I have. Does estroblock spike your blood pressure? I don’t want to result back to the pill but my skin and body is preventing me from wanting to do things in public.

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- Fran February 22, 2017, 2:59 pm
  
  Hi Becky, I am not aware of any connection between estroblock and blood pressure, but to be safe you can call the company and ask.
  
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Janusch February 16, 2017, 10:34 am

And is it ok that i Combine agnus Castus with estro block ?

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- Fran February 17, 2017, 6:42 pm
  
  Yes that’s fine, if you need them both.
  
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Janusch February 13, 2017, 8:46 pm

Hellt from Germany,
I wenn Off the bc on Sunday and I Started Takimg estroblock a Month ago because i Heard it Could help me with the side effects like Acne ( i have mild Acne Even with bc)! Is it a bad idea because i dont Know of i have high it low estrogen? Iam scared i Do Something wrong ! Greetz

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A February 8, 2017, 1:02 pm

Hi Fran, my acne gets really bad during the luteal phase. Do you think Estroblock can help?
Thanks ☺

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- Fran February 13, 2017, 4:42 pm
  
  Hi A, it may or may not in the short term, it depends if you are high in testosterone or not. It will correct any progesterone imbalance if you have it, but you then will need to work on boosting progesterone. To diagnose I need much more information.
  
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Annis January 27, 2017, 9:37 am

Hello Fran,

Strange things are happening. Before starting to take DIM, i had perfect cycles. Like clock work, they would start every 28 days. But ever since starting DIM, about 6-9 months ago, my period has been all over the place. Now my cycles range from 24 days to 29 days and they change on each cycle, it’s never the same anymore.

It’s puzzling! Although, DIM did clear out majority of my horrible acne in about 6 months, it has led me to weird cycles.

The reason i took it in the first place was:

1. Acne – helped
2. Hirsutism – seems to have made it worse
3. Heavy bleeding for the first 2-3 days – didn’t really see a different
4. Female pattern hair loss – no help

I’ve also never taken birth control pills.

My acne gets really bad and flares up mainly about 14 days before my period starts. And because the acne is cystic, under the skin, blind, really painful ones, the old ones don’t go away. So my face looked like a x-mas tree everyday.

DIM has certainly basically “cured” the acne as i no longer get breakouts and if i do, it is because i’ve eaten sugary/ dairy crap or i’ve forgotten to take the dim for a few days.

Also, it seems like DIM doesn’t actually cure anything. It seems like it only helps when you take it, but when you stop taking it, the acne comes back with a revenge.

It would be interesting to hear your thoughts about this.
What could the reasons be behind something like this for some people?
Would you advice them to stop taking it?

I just started taking Maca this month – i took it for about two weeks and now i’ve stopped and i’m taking DIM until my period starts within the next 7-10 days. I feel like Maca is helping me be a bit more calm. But causes major insomnia, if i don’t take it by 8 am. I made the mistake in the first week of taking the Maca around 3-6 pm. Bad mistake, i was up basically all night for a week!

I’m considering also taking Vitex and see if that helps to regulate my cycles. I once a while ago took Vitex for a few months, because i thought maybe it would help with my female pattern hair loss. But i got so severe period pain after few months of using, that i got scared and stopped using it.

Kind regards,
Annis

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- Fran January 31, 2017, 7:48 pm
  
  Hi Annis, our cycle naturally changes according to the moon, our stress levels, what we eat and who we work and live with. A cycle that shifts between 24-29 days still a regular and very normal cycle. What the DIM has done is blocked DHT and corrected your estrogen/progesterone ratio, but for the cure you need to work out which one you had, and then what the root cause was. At a guess it sounds like you were low in progesterone so you need to sort out the root cause of that. Please book in a consultation so that we can get you onto a solid plan.
  
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Kim January 22, 2017, 3:17 am

Hey Fran,
Like many on this blog, I’ve found myself suffering from hormonal acne as well. I stumbled upon your site tonight. I have two questions as I am preparing to schedule a hormone test Monday.

1. Is it safe to take if I have fibroids?
2. What should I have “checked” during my hormone test?

Thank you,
Kim

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- Fran January 25, 2017, 3:22 pm
  
  Hi Kim, yes, DIM is actually a good supplement to take with fibroids. Good hormones to get checked are: DHT, testosterone, progesterone (around ovulation), prolactin, DHEA-S, SHBG and cortisol.
  
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Lynn January 18, 2017, 5:59 pm

Hello,
After testing, I learned my acne/oily scalp/hair loss is from high levels of DHT. I came across a site stating DHT block helps but I am unable to find it anywhere else online. Are you familiar with this or able to make any recommendations to help? I noticed when my estrogen levels are high (while pregnant or when taking birth control) all symptoms disappear so I’m assuming estroblock would not be for me??

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- Fran January 25, 2017, 3:13 pm
  
  Hi Lynn, Saw Palmetto at 320mg daily is great for blocking DHT. The dosage may need to be tweaked as everyone is different. I also highly encourage you to work with your blood sugar levels. When you were pregnant your progesterone was very high which would have been the reason why your skin was clear.
  
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Jessica January 10, 2017, 1:36 am

I took DIM for a month and it cleared me up completely. Though I had to stop taking because it made me depressed. Does this mean I should never use an aromarase inhibitor because it increases my testosterone (causing depression) or does it mean I can never have clear skin because my estrogen is too low? (Sorry, just trying to figure out the secret to life)! I haven’t been able to get pregnant for over six years 🙁 I know it’s a hormone issue!

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- Fran January 13, 2017, 3:16 pm
  
  Hi Jessica, if you are having trouble getting pregnant then it’s more likely your estrogen/progesterone ratio causing your acne and not your testosterone. I recommend getting more hormonal testing.
  
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Emily January 8, 2017, 9:01 am

hi, I was told my hormonal acne is caused because I produce too much testosterone. what would you recommend me doing to fix this? is there a pill, like estroblock thatll help? I’m assuming estroblock (and the people that have taken it & gotten negative side effects) was because they produced too much TESTOSTERONE and not estrogen? thanks.

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- Fran January 13, 2017, 3:15 pm
  
  Hi Emily, it depends if it really is the actual cause of your acne – were you tested? Were you tested for DHT, progesterone and estrogen as well? EstroBlock is not the right supplement for you as it can raise testosterone in some women.
  
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Rebecca January 5, 2017, 1:51 pm

Hi Fran,
I came off the pill just over a year ago after developing acne at 22. I tried a few on doctors recommendations but they all gave me various problem and some horrible side effects.
6 months after, I started Vitex, within 3 months my skin was amazingly clear but I stupidly thought it was fixed and stopped taking them, to which my acne returned. I have now been taking them again for 2 and half months but it doesn’t seem to be making a difference this time around. Would you suggest adding Estroblock as some other blogs advise?
(I also take EPO and ttc vitamins, I am not trying to conceive but was told the B vitamins and zinc etc in them will help balance hormones when you come off the pill, and I have just carried on taking them since)

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- Fran January 5, 2017, 2:56 pm
  
  Hi Rebecca, it is too difficult for me to tell without a proper consultation with you – please book in and we’ll get you onto a treatment plan that works long term!
  
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A December 19, 2016, 9:01 pm

I get hormonal acne during ovulation that lasts until before my period. Do you think Estroblock can help? Thanks ☺

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- Fran December 20, 2016, 6:36 am
  
  Hi A, it’s too difficult to tell without getting more history/information from you.
  
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Rachel December 11, 2016, 12:52 pm

Hi Fran
I see you recommend DIM alongside hormonal birth control, however I’m concerned that it would reduce the efficacy of the birth control. Can I ask what your evidence is that they are safe to take together?
Thanks

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- Fran December 18, 2016, 1:47 am
  
  Hi Rachel, it absolutely cannot do this, it is safe to take together. You can also ring up the company and ask – they will confirm it for you.
  
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Jessie November 30, 2016, 6:05 am

Hi Fran,

I unfortunately did not come across this post until I had already been taking 2 of the estroblock triple strength pills per day. It has been 10 days and my hormonal acne on my face has gotten worse and spread,, my back is pretty broken out now too and I got a rash on my butt. Would you recommend I keep taking the 2/day since I already started that way, lower it to 1, or stop taking it altogether?
Thank you

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- Jessie November 30, 2016, 6:07 am
  
  Just to clarify I never took the regular strength estroblock like you recommend (although I really wish I had), I just started out with the 2 triples right away.
  
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Emily November 27, 2016, 12:02 am

Hi Fran
Can you link me to the studies about DIM blocking the conversion of testosterone to DHT? Or is this something you’ve witnessed from treating your clients?
I have PCOS with acne. I took estroblock last year and it cleared my acne, but then the effect weakened after months of supplementation.
Thanks

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- Fran November 28, 2016, 8:38 am
  
  Hi Emily, there are thousands of articles and research published online about this! Look up aromatase inhibitors – keep in mind that the reproductive hormonal system takes time to get your head around it.
  
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Alisa S. James November 21, 2016, 1:32 am

If I am taking the pill not only for acne but also for preventing pregnancy, would dim or estroblock affect that? Does it lessen the 99.9% chance of pregnancy?

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- Fran November 28, 2016, 8:35 am
  
  Hi Alisa, No, DIM will not make you able to get pregnant, in fact I recommend taking it for the duration of being on the pill.
  
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  - Alisa S. James December 14, 2016, 10:09 am
    
    Thanks so much for your reply Fran. I am happy to hear that.
    
    I have been searching all over and seeking answers. You are the only person that has responded. In my research I see that dim has been cautioned for women on birth control. Do you have any research you could point me to?
    
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    - Fran December 18, 2016, 1:46 am
      
      Hi Alisa, I see absolutely no reason why DIM would be cautioned for women on the pill.
      
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      - Alisa S. James December 19, 2016, 4:50 am
        
        Thanks Fran. They had me so worried . Pregnancy is not something I/we want. You just gave my heart some relief and I know my fiance will be happy to hear this too.
        
        I thought to myself though that it sounded kind of weird that something that’s found in veggies would cause an effect on birth control pills. If so, why don’t doctors tell you not to eat Broccoli etc when on the pill. But I had already made up my mind to continue to take the dim and if it does happen that a baby comes we will just call the child Dimso or Dimsa. Lol
        
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Rachael November 16, 2016, 11:48 pm

Hi Fran,
I have struggled with acne for probably 5 years and have been to a dermatologist. I have taken several different kinds of antibiotics and topicals but nothing seems to really work long term. I am pretty sure that most of my acne is hormonal but am hesitant to go on acutane. Would Estroblock be a good thing to try since antibiotics seem to be doing no good? Thanks!

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- Fran November 28, 2016, 8:34 am
  
  Hi Rachael, I can’t say without having a consultation with you.. It depends on your unique situation and skin. Book in a consultation and I’ll get you onto the best treatment plan and clear skin 🙂
  
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Sarah November 14, 2016, 9:29 am

I have read a lot of your website and comments. I am currently on the pill (I would rather not be after having been off it for 3 years however my acne got out of control and I was at my wits end after trying all sorts of natural treatments – tried Vitex for 3 months with no luck, I have a very clean diet, I exercise regularly, I take turmeric & probiotics, I’m gluten free) and was wondering how I would correctly use Estroblock as I read that you recommend it for people on the pill, to help with side effects? How long do I use it for if I plan on being on the pill for another 18 months (I currently live in Abu Dhabi and will be moving back to my home country in 18 months where I plan on trying oil cleansing, going off the pill etc. as it is easier and products are more accessible)? Last question I promise! When I plan on coming off the pill I want my body to be in a really good place so that I minimise the chances of getting acne, do you advise using estroblock throughout the time I am on the pill or leading up to going off it or both? Thank you in advance for attempting to answer my ramble of questions haha.

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- Fran November 14, 2016, 11:15 pm
  
  Hi Sarah, yes, I recommend that you take DIM or EstroBlock for the duration of being on the pill, and then for 6 months after. Take 1-2 capsules daily of the regular strength only.
  
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  - Sarah November 15, 2016, 10:43 am
    
    Thank you for your prompt reply, I really appreciate it! How do I know whether to choose DIM or Estroblock? And is there a specific brand that I should be looking at? I am quite keen for you to take a look at my hormone test results that I had done before I went back on the pill (approximately 5 months ago, is that too long ago?) to see if I would be a good candidate for DIM or EstroBlock, because I think both my testosterone and estrogens came back within a good range. To be honest I am incredibly anxious about trying a new supplement and eventually going off the pill as I had such a horrific experience with my skin a few months back and it has really taken a toll on my confidence and has almost turned into an obsession, so I want to be really sure that whatever I choose is going to be the best for my body and skin. Thank you again.
    
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    - Sarah November 15, 2016, 10:55 am
      
      I probably should also mention that before going back on the pill, one of the main reasons I had all my hormones done was to do with my irregular periods (6-8 weeks) as well as my acne. So when all my tests kept coming back as normal and I don’t have PCOS or any other condition, it had me pretty stumped. I had irregular periods before going on the pill (age 16) but I was also a competitive swimmer so was continuously told that this was normal for an athlete.
      
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    - Fran November 16, 2016, 12:27 am
      
      Hi Sarah, EstroBlock is DIM actually, it is just a brand that I recommend. Great, book in a consultation and I’ll take a look at your test results 🙂
      
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Anni November 8, 2016, 5:25 pm

Hi Fran

This is interesting. About 6 months ago i started using Estroblock for my severe cystic blind acne. It actually helped and i no longer get acne, which is amazing. The acne i got usually got worse before i was about to start my period, also i would get random inflamed acne if i ate a lot of dairy and sugar.

But i’m confused, i always thought that i was high on testosterone. Because ever since i was turned 18-20 i start getting a serious case of hirsutism. Lip, nipples, stomach, neck, chin, you name it. I’m a hairy beast. Also about 3-4 years ago, i was blessed with the awesome female pattern hair loss 🙂 So now i’m going bald, my scalp is currently clearly visible as i’ve lost 50 % of my hair with this diffuse hair loss.

So now i’m wondering why estroblock is helping me, since i’m pretty sure i’m high on testosterone? And should i stop using it?

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- Fran November 10, 2016, 10:36 pm
  
  Hi Anni, sounds like you were more likely high in DHT with your symptoms. EstroBlock blocks the conversion of testosterone into DHT so this will be why it has worked so well for you.
  
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stefanie October 28, 2016, 2:22 pm

Good morning Fran, During my research on the Estro Block supplement, I happily came across your site. My fifteen year old daughter has been struggling with acne since puberty-age 10. She has done the prescription topical, short round of antibiotics, and acne cleansers. Her acne is focused on her cheeks(mainly) and chin. She has had acne on her chest and back but with the Murad continuously clear vitamin supplements and a probiotic she has seen amazing results. My daughter has a fair complexion so her acne marks leave her face red/pink which only makes her self esteem plummet more. She does have painful,heavy periods,PMS to which her Dr wanted to prescribe birth control and more antibiotics for the acne but I am hesitant. We have started a no dairy, no red meat, low sugarand more plant based lifestyle change. I would love to have a consultation with you since you are so informative on the topic with much success in healing acne. Until I do schedule ,do you have any advice for me? Thank you so much for your time and helpfulness…

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- Fran October 28, 2016, 10:44 pm
  
  Hi Stefanie,
  
  Please book in a consultation, I can definitely help her. In the meantime, consider changing the diet to a low glycemic one instead. Red meat and other meats are okay, the idea is to maintain an even sugar balance especially in the two weeks leading up to her bleeding.
  
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Linda October 17, 2016, 2:40 pm

I tried reading up on your credentials and saw none. Are you giving people advice just based on experience? And if yes, why don’t you answer most questions here and keep asking people to book consult with you, what’s the point of creating this chat sessions when you keep telling people,”book a consult with me” as the answer?

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- Fran October 17, 2016, 2:55 pm
  
  Hi Linda,
  
  I have studies in both nutritional medicine and holistic counselling, as well as mentors and teachers that I have studied with outside of formal eduction. I continue to work with an accredited naturopath with this work, and have been helping to heal women with acne successfully for over 10 years. I know acne now like the back of my mind now!! However, it is most times impossible to give advice to a woman after one or two sentences. A holistic body is so complex so I need to have a chat and ask a bunch of questions, along with looking at the type of acne and sometimes checking in with the naturopath or referring them on dependant on their unique situation. Unfortunately I feel that I would be potentially making someone’s skin and even systems of the body worse if I was to give advice on such little information.
  
  I’m also super busy with emails and consultations from paid clients which I need to give priority too. But it is always good to question so I thank you for bringing all of this up, I’m sure it is helpful to others to understand also.
  
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N October 11, 2016, 9:30 pm

Hey Fran,
what about in my case, it seems like both my androgens and estrogens are on the higher side. I also have PCOS, but am really slim, on the hairy side, have acne, seborrheic dermatitis. Where should I begin? Reishi mushroom for blocking the 5a reductase, how to tackle the testosterone? White peony? But that would increase esttogen… Btw; does an increase of aromatase lowers the testosterone?
Anyhow-where to atart?

Thank you! I LOVE your blog and your passion!

Best,
N

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- Fran October 17, 2016, 3:00 pm
  
  Hi N, it depends on the diagnosis for PCOS and how correct it was, along with exactly what androgens are elevated – is it just testosterone or is it just DHT or both. And is your DHT elevated? Also what estrogen? What supplements are you currently taking? How is your digestive system? What restrictions are you on with your diet if any? When did the acne start and what is it like? I have many more questions that I need to ask before I can advise!
  
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Leanne October 4, 2016, 6:14 pm

I have been on a low dose monophasic birth control for 15 years. I’m now 34 and having worsening acne. I was recently told to try Dim-pro 100 for acne but am concerned it will reduce the efficacy of my birth control? Also I have never had break through bleeding until the last few months and I’m taking active pills but still having cramps and light bleeding. Could dim- pro help this or only make it worse ?
Thanks !

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- Fran October 6, 2016, 7:10 pm
  
  Hi Leanne, it will not lessen the efficiency of your BCP, in fact I always recommend DIM for women on the BCP to help with any side effects.
  
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Christina September 17, 2016, 2:32 pm

Hi Fran,

I really hope you read and answer to my question :).
After getting of the pill a half year ago, I unfortunately still feel bloated, full of Walter etc., just as with pill. Last Time i got off the pill, i lost weight dramatically plus got acne and hair loss. In Both cases however, i dont get my period anymore.
My blood says, almost all of my hormones (estro, testo, progesteron) are quit low, except of my dht level….this is ALWAYS pretty high?? Although the testo itself is low. So i think, the Transformation of testo into dht must b very strong in my case….
Is Estro block thus a good idea for me although both estro and testo are low?
Thank you in advance
Christina

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- Fran September 27, 2016, 7:53 pm
  
  Hi Christina, I would like to work with you to help your hormonal system to get back on track. Please book in a consultation.
  
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Tess September 13, 2016, 9:31 am

I recently got a blood test done for my hormones and it showed that i had high estrogen levels. I was surprised by this as i thought it was high testosterone causing my acne as i also had some mild facial hair. As i thought it was high testosterone causing my acne i started taking spironolactone. Ive been on spironolactone for 4 months now and it hasn’t cured my acne but it has made it slightly better. (if you don’t know spironolactone lowers testoserone levels in the body). So now that my results have come back saying that i have high estrogen im thinking i should start supplementing with Estroblock. Is it safe for me to take estroblock and spironolactone at the same time as I’m scared to stop taking spironolactone all together because it has made a little bit of difference to my skin, or is it possible that taking spironolactone and lowering my testosterone that it has upped my estrogen levels?

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- Fran September 13, 2016, 1:25 pm
  
  Hi Tess, spiro is a very strong drug so if it has only cleared your acne a little then you’re on the wrong treatment. It also doesn’t make sense to take spiro to lower testosterone, but then to also take estroblock which can raise testosterone in some women. Please book in a consultation, I would like to have a proper chat with you to work out the best natural treatment plan for you.
  
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Maryam September 6, 2016, 5:46 pm

Hello im maryam fron holland. I had acne my entite life on my cheeks. Diana worked for me but i needed to stop because the doctor in holland could describe it anymore because of the danger of this phill.
Last year i took accutane and my acne disappeared. Now its like my face is getting oily again and a view pimples returned 🙁 6 years ago they concluded in a hospital that i have a high testosteron level.. thats why i think my acne is hormonal because the accutane didnt help for long time.
What do you advice me. Should i take astroblock or you have any other advice. Im getting very desperate right now 🙁

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- Fran September 13, 2016, 12:53 pm
  
  Hi Maryam, I can definitely get your testosterone down naturally with a diet and supplementation regime. Please book in a consultation and let’s get you on a good treatment plan to get you clear 🙂
  
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Amber August 19, 2016, 6:27 pm

I have heard that DIM lowers/blocks androgens and my naturopath suggested I take it… But I have low estrogen and high testosterone… I have been taking it for 2 days and breaking out right now… could it be the supplement?

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- Fran August 22, 2016, 3:13 pm
  
  Hi Amber, I do not recommend that you take it as it can lower estrogen and raise testosterone which is exactly what you don’t want!
  
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  - Amber August 27, 2016, 1:12 pm
    
    Which supplements actually lower testosterone then? For my low estrogen, progesterone, and high testosterone (tested 2 months after my baby) he has me on an herbal blend with
    * White peaony
    · Licorice
    · Chaste tree/berry
    · Dandelion
    · Bupleurum
    · Schizandra
    · Globe artichoke
    · Milk thistle
    
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Juliana August 17, 2016, 2:13 pm

Hi Fran!
I had problems with my BC pills, after 5 years using Belara, my period wasn’t stopping even after taking another entire pack of it…so I decided to quit. While I was still taking the BC, tough, I started to have acne, and then I realized my hormones were unbalanced. So I decided to take Indol-3-carbinol, hoping that it could help me to deal with the problem. I used for one month, but nothing changed a lot. After I quit the BC pills, my period never appeared again, unless when the doctor made me to use synthetic progesterone. This amenorrea still with me. I went to several gynecologists who wanted me to go back to the BC pills, but I REALLY don’t want to do this, I feel like the problems I am having now are because of it and start to take it again its like maintain this problem to deal with it again in the future. So, I read “Thelovevitamin” the blog of Tracy, and decided to take vitex berry + estroblock triple strength + SAT for liver. I am doing all of this for one month now, but I feel that Estroblock is not helping. Before I start to use the supplements, I did a blood test (my gynecologist asked) and the results were that my progesterone and estrogen levels are low, above the recommended level. and now, after one month using estroblock, I started to have a few breakouts, which made me think that estroblock is not a good choice for me, since it will metabolize my estrogen and possibly make my testosteron levels even higher, and worse my condition. I found now your post and really believe this makes sense.
I am considering to quit estroblock today and mantain the SAT and Vitex Berry.
Do you believe this is the right thing for me to do?
I am loving your blog, thank you for sharing all this info!
Looking forward your comments about my experiences.
Thank you so much!
Juliana

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- Fran August 22, 2016, 3:10 pm
  
  Hi Juliana, EstroBlock is not the right supplement for you, and vitex needs to be taken with guidance if it is the correct supplement for you. I highly recommend that you visit a local natural therapist to help with your amenorrhea.
  
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Adrienne August 8, 2016, 3:53 am

I am confused now. I have been reading that “DIM, is known to reduce androgens, or male sex hormones (among which is testosterone). Indeed, since it lowers testosterone, it works well for women suffering from male-type hair loss and hirsutism. Here instead the total opposite is being said. Please clarify.

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- Fran August 22, 2016, 2:52 pm
  
  Hi Adrienne, that is incorrect. DIM is an aromatase inhibitor, which means it blocks the conversion of testosterone into DHT, and therefore lowering DHT androgen levels. However, we hope that the excess testosterone is then converted into healthy estrogens, but in some cases it doesn’t so the testosterone levels rise even higher. For this reason I never recommend DIM to women with high testosterone.
  
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  - Regina September 4, 2016, 10:25 pm
    
    I am confused. Isn’t DHT the primary culprit behind acne? If DIM is blocking the testosterone (T) conversion to DHT (which is what acne sufferers want) and T is being raised higher and potentially not being turned into estrogens then theoretically there could be more circulating T… understood, BUT if the DHT is being inhibited anyway, how is the higher level of T a problem for acne? Does it just become a problematic cycle of blocking DHT and then producing more T and therefore, more DHT to block and therefore DIM may not do such a good job at this if T levels become too high?
    
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    - Fran September 5, 2016, 1:31 pm
      
      Hi Regina, often yes but not always. Testosterone is not always raised higher, sometimes the excess testosterone converts into healthy estrogens. If you have too high testosterone, you can also have an excess of sebum production, and then blackheads and whiteheads, and then of course potential acne.
      
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christina July 4, 2016, 8:54 pm

Hi Fran,

I’m 42 and having the 2nd worse outbreak cycle of my life. Huge cystic acne everyday of my cycle. I cleared it up the first time with spironolactone when I was 34yrs old, 50mg daily and 100mg around my period, and I was on ortho tricyclen-lo. My skin was completely crystal clear for 2 years. We wanted to try for a baby so I got off it and my skin wasn’t great but tolerable. I’m back on 50mg of spiro and seeing a small difference but still breaking out. I really don’t want to increase the dosage but I need some relief. I have tinnitus since 4 moths ago and feel like the spiro could be aggravating it so I’m looking for natural ways to balance my hormones. Spiro works by blocking androgens and while I don’t think I have higher than normal testosterone levels (I was tested back in my 30’s and tests came back back normal for all hormone levels), I have read that I may be, and always have been, sensitive to androgens. So while my levels are normal, if they increase even just a little due to age-related hormone changes, this could be setting me off again. Though the spiro doesn’t seem to be working as well this time and I was thinking it’s possible that my estrogen levels may have increased due to age-related hormone changes. If so, then according to wikipedia, spironolactone could be blocking the androgens and increasing my possibly already increased estrogen. If this theory is correct, do you think it’s possible the DIM will work hand in hand with the spiro? Possibly the spiro blocking the androgens and the DIM ridding me of excess estrogen? It just seems that this time around the cystic acne may have another cause than just androgen sensitivity. I just can’t bring myself to try the DIM and risk further cystic acne. It’s been destroying my confidence and in tandem with constant tinnitus I really need a break from my body!

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- Fran July 7, 2016, 7:26 pm
  
  Hi Christina, I won’t know without having a proper chat with you… please book in a consultation so that we can work together and get you on the best treatment plan.
  
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Stefy July 2, 2016, 7:00 am

Hello Fran,
I came off the pill (Diane 35/Dianette) 3 and a half years ago and ever since i have been struggling with acne and hair loss. I first had horrible cystic acne everywhere (face, back, hair) and it go better over time and thanks to yarrow supplements. However, I still have acne and my hair loss has been worsening. I stopped my yarrow supplements 3 months ago and I would like to replace them with Estroblock but after reading your blog I must say I am worried about possible side effects… Do you think that my hair loss shows that I have too high androgens?
Thanks
All the best!

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- Fran July 2, 2016, 10:46 pm
  
  Hi Stefy, Please book in a consultation so that I can best work with you – let’s get it sorted out.
  
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a June 10, 2016, 8:15 pm

Hi Fran,
I just found out that my shbg level is high (170 nmol/l), should I take Estroblock?
Thanks.:-)

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- Fran June 13, 2016, 11:39 pm
  
  Hi A, EstroBlock works with your estrogen, DHT and testosterone levels, not your SHBG.
  
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  - a June 14, 2016, 4:58 am
    
    Thanks for your reply☺ What would you recommend that I take? I have a little of acne sine I stoppede taking the pill at year age (trying to get pregnant). I have been on Vitex for 3 months (hasn’t worked for my acne yet) and milk thistle for about at week.
    Thanks in avance☺
    
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    - Fran June 19, 2016, 11:36 pm
      
      Hi A, please book in a consultation so that I can properly help you.
      
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Steph June 9, 2016, 1:01 am

Hi Fran,

What would you recommend to lower testosterone levels?

Thanks

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- Fran June 13, 2016, 11:38 pm
  
  Hi Steph, it depends on what else is going on in your body, and if you in fact do have high testosterone. Book in a consultation and I’ll take a look.
  
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Melissa June 8, 2016, 3:56 pm

Hi Fran,

I have been eating healthy and on antibiotics, but nothing stops this acne after getting off my BC pills about 6 months ago. I just started taking Estroblock this week. As per your recommendations, maybe I should get a hormone test done first… how long should I be off of Estroblock before I get the hormone test done to ensure it doesn’t alter my test results? Honestly, I’ve been so miserable with this acne that I’m a week into Estroblock, kind of scared to go off of it because I’m so hopeful that it could help me!

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- Fran June 13, 2016, 11:37 pm
  
  Hi Melissa, you can get a hormone test whilst on estroblock – but you don’t need a hormone test done. I can work with you without it.
  
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Michaela June 6, 2016, 7:58 am

Hi Fran,

I am from Germany and I took EstroBlock 4 weeks for weight loss and Acne.
My period was really reliable and I got it every 30 days. Now my stomach is very big and my breasts are aching. What can I do? I do not take Estroblock anymore. I stopped one week ago. Nothing happens 🙁 Pls help me
THANK YOU!!!!!

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- Michaela June 6, 2016, 7:59 am
  
  What I wanted to say actually: I do not have my period anymore
  
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- Fran June 7, 2016, 12:39 am
  
  Hi Michaela, either give it another week, take a diuretic or it is not due to EstroBlock.
  
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  - Michaela June 7, 2016, 9:26 am
    
    My period was always on time every single month since I stopped taking the pill. The only thing I changed was taking estroblock. I never had those symptomes before. I am not pregnant :):):)
    
    Thank you very much
    
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Stephanie April 23, 2016, 10:20 pm

Hello Fran!
To treat my hormonal acne I started taking nature’s way DIM-Plus for about 19 days.
Suddenly on 20th day, I started having skin rashes starting on my hands which spread to my whole body and face in a day. I also took Zinc supplement too.

I suspected that my rashes are from DIM-Plus and/or Zinc, so I stopped taking it but my rashes are not subsiding.

I read some reviews on that product and some people had skin rash problems like me.

I would like to try estroblock after I get better but I’m little scared because these rashes
are so horrible looking and itchy which I don’t want a get again.

Have you heard of any skin rash problems by estroblock users before? What other side effects can I expect?

My thyroid level fluctuates and I tend to have low thyroid hormones. I wonder if this has anything to do with the rash.

Another thing to ask you is people who gets off of estroblock seems to get their acne back. Is estro block safe to take for a long period of time?

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- Fran April 25, 2016, 5:22 pm
  
  Hi Stephanie, Nature’s Way DIM is not a great product, I find that it is less effective and has more side effects. Once the rash has gone, try just one capsule of regular strength estroblock and see how you go. Also please book in a consultation to get proper help.
  
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- Becky September 22, 2017, 8:24 pm
  
  Did your rash ever go away? I am experiencing the exact same rash now, I’m on day 30 and I cant take it anymore.
  
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Jess March 8, 2016, 12:26 am

Hi Fran, I just got my saliva test back and it’s saying I have high testosterone and low cortisol. What do you recommend?

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- Fran March 11, 2016, 6:44 pm
  
  Hi Jess, I recommend that you book in a consultation so that I can properly help you.
  
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Mary February 10, 2016, 7:45 pm

Hi Fran:

My progesterone levels are off but estrogen and testosterone came back normal. Would I fit the category of women who could benefit from Estroblock?
I have a lot of issues going on (autoimmune) and my skin is suffering terribly. I’ve never had acne in my entire life and am 39 years old. I’ve seen numerous doctors and dermatologists and nothing is working.

Thanks in advance for any feedback!

Mary

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- Fran February 24, 2016, 4:49 pm
  
  Hi Mary, it depends on your history and what estrogen it was. We have 40 different types of estrogens – some good and some bad. It also depends on your levels of DHT. Please book in a consultation so that we can have a proper chat.
  
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CC December 30, 2015, 12:48 am

Hi, I’ve been taking DIM for like a year or so now.. I take Estroblock triple strength, and I still breakout pretty frequently. And I mean all kinds of acne. Lately, I’ve been experiencing more cystic type acne which really suuuuucks. I also took Nature’s Way DIM for awhile. I take with liver support of course. As someone who’s acne was most under control while on birth control..this hasn’t worked for me. I don’t understand why it hasn’t. Doctors have been extremely difficult to work with as far as testing my hormones, I’ve asked for a saliva test a few times and have been sent to get blood work for maybe two hormones instead, despite my pleas for saliva. I eat a really restrictive diet, lots of veggies, fruits, legumes, seeds, nuts, some grains like brown/wild rice..maybe couscous and quinoa but very rarely and game (venison)..rarely. I’m careful about what I put on my face also. I’m breaking out more, and I’m recently eating much better..I’m not about to get my period. I’m worried I’m taking far too many supplements. I take several antioxidants, liver supports..

I take..
Vitamin A, D3
Raw VItamin E, K, Selenium also includes some A and D.
NAC, CDG, Silymarin which is Milkthistle, also contains Dandelion, and Artichoke
Zinc Picolinate
Quercitin
Magnesium Glycinate
Vegan Omega 3 DHA, EPA
Green Tea Extract
Ashwagandha
Niacin (B3)–The kind that flushes
Cinnamon
MSM powder
Maca root powder..but not regularly
I’m probably forgetting something..

I’ve recently quit taking Vitex (Chasteberry), Super B complex, and I did initially quit taking DIM, but I started to get a nasty cyst on my chin so out of fear I started taking it again. My face was getting really oily so, I thought that the hormone adjusting supplements were negatively affecting me. I’ve just added the A, D3, Zinc, Magnesium, Cinnamon, MSM and CDG. I’m exhausted..I’m scared to drop any supplements..it’s becoming more and more expensive. I also drink green tea with spearmint and peppermint..I don’t like tea, but I’ve heard it’s good for balancing an oily face and it’s got antioxidants.. So, I’m wondering..am I over doing it? Should I quit the DIM? I also have Wild Yam pills which boost progesterone, but again, I don’t want to take that until I find a doctor who will properly test my levels. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I’m sick of fighting my skin.. Thank you!

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- Fran January 3, 2016, 10:30 pm
  
  Hi CC, Please book in a consultation – I currently have about a one month waiting list for Email clients so I need to give priority to paid clients.
  
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LoveWins December 10, 2015, 4:24 pm

Hey just a friendly suggestion on fact check on DIM and Androgens http://www.jbc.org/content/278/23/21136.full
This is a Medical Journal publication and study. Also read some other articles via web that DIM is actually an Androgen blocker. So Estroblock advertisements are sort of misleading, still helpful to acne, but not in the way we are interpreting.
Appreciate your site and the info, but just thought I would give you a heads up and share what I’ve foun. Thanks!

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- Fran December 14, 2015, 3:45 pm
  
  Hi LoveWins, Unfortunatley there is a lot of incorrect information out there. The bottom line is – DIM is an aromatase inhibitor which means that over time it will lower [some types of] estrogens and raise testosterone, as it blocks the conversion of testosterone into DHT. This is what all aromatase inhibitors do. So, the articles are in some way correct as it DOES lower DHT, which is an androgen, but in doing that it can also raise testosterone, which is also an androgen. It is a tricky herb that needs to be utilised correctly.
  
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Vanessa December 2, 2015, 11:30 am

Hi Fran,
Can you take estroblock or DIM whilst pregnant? Do you offer consultations for pregnant women with acne? Thanks

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- Fran December 3, 2015, 9:38 pm
  
  Hi Vanessa, yes you can at a low dosage. And yes I do consult with pregnant women 🙂
  
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Lauren July 19, 2015, 11:52 pm

I still get bad cystic acne on my chin area although it’s a little better. I’ve been taking estroblock for a couple months and before that dim. We had a consult a few months back. I also take fertility blend and some other supplements. In the past, spirinolactone ( which I recently restarted bc its been bad) worked on my acne. I know this blocks androgens and lowers testosterone. So does this mean that maybe I shouldn’t take estroblock? If spirinolactone is what helps, it seems I need an anti androgen, not the estroblock. I appreciate your help.
Lauren

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- Kristi June 7, 2016, 11:11 am
  
  How long have you been on the spironolactone? I’d be careful with it!
  
  I was on it for about six or seven years – and it did help a lot with my skin (didn’t totally eradicate it but it really, really kept it in check).
  
  Here’s the bad news – it can KILL your testosterone levels (which helps with hormonal acne – what I have/had) but it can also bring on all of the effects of high estrogen because there’s no testosterone to balance it out.
  
  Weight gain – especially in the belly area (even though I was never prone to that) – unlike anything I’d ever experienced, to the tune of about SIXTY pounds over the course of six or seven years!!! I may have gone up or down a size periodically throughout my life but I went up FIVE dress sizes in that time!!
  And this has been very resistant weight gain. Almost nothing I’ve done has caused this to budge. After a MONTH of a very rigorous exercise program, I hadn’t lost an inch or a pound! Diets and other programs that work dramatically for others had almost zero effect on my weight gain.
  
  My energy levels went down significantly over that time.
  
  My boobs blew up like a BALLOON!! My bra size stayed virtually the same my entire adult life (with slight changes with weight change) but I gained FOUR to FIVE CUP sizes during those years of being on spirono.
  
  My sex drive decreased dramatically – not in my head but in my body.
  
  Reduced body hair – the hair on my head thinned out dramatically; my legs and armpits needed MUCH less frequent shaving (which wasn’t all bad, mind you. LOL). And other hairy areas of my body reduced in hair volume by at least fifty percent.
  
  I was perplexed as to how all these things had happened to me – I kept gaining weight steadily over the years, despite improving my diet and becoming more active (losing my desk job, working out more, etc…). Then I had my a-ha moment and connected the dots and realized that my weight gain issues started shortly after starting those meds. Nobody ever gave me that warning!
  
  Even MONTHS after getting off the meds, my testosterone levels were that of a woman in her sixties! I am NOT!
  
  If you are in your early twenties and you are thin and active, and you don’t plan on taking spirono for years on end, you’ll probably be ok and not see as many effects – you are still young and your body is resilient. But, if you are over thirty, I’d highly recommend you get yourself off the drug. Acne beats the pants off of fat that is immoveable and not being able to find a bra in any store! Trust me. I’ve battled acne for decades and this is worse than the acne!
  
  I did start taking Yogi Skin Detox tea very regularly (I drink at least one per day and two or more when I’m at acne-prone times of my cycle) and that has helped a lot. It hasn’t cleared me entirely but it REALLY keeps it at bay (lots more than when I don’t take it). Also, drinking lots of water helps more than you realize. And, topically, I use a sulfur-based drying lotion on any blemishes I have and that seems to clear things up pretty quickly (in a day or two).
  
  I know that Spironolactone can seem like a miracle (especially if you had been searching for answers for a long time like I had when I started on it), but I’d urge you to reconsider.
  
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  - Phyllis February 16, 2019, 1:37 pm
    
    Kristi,
    Have you been able to shed the spiro weight gain? I had pretty much the same experience on spironolactone that you describe but I was only on it for 2 years before making the connection. I gained 30 pounds!! I have been off the spiro for a year and a half and in spite of exercising like crazy and watching what I eat I really haven’t lost any weight!! Is this the curse of the drug? The late 40s? Or both??
    
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Veronika July 19, 2015, 11:51 pm

Thanks for posting this Fran! I suspected that Estroblock might not be right for me, because I was hesitant to even try the first pill. I know it usually takes several months for Estroblock to kick in, but it seems it effected me negatively after 2 weeks both times. The only acne I was getting was hormonal, on my chin/jaw.

I find that surprisingly, organic tofu balances out my hormones, so maybe I have high androgen and low estrogen (it’s unclear how phytoestrogens effect the body though).

Here what I’m doing now: 1) Exercise – this is so underrated, but so important for my lymph system, hormones, skin/scar healing, and overall skin “glow”. 2) Greens (when I get daily green juice, my skin LOVES it), organic tofu, guggulsterone pills (have you tried these?), vitamins 3) No gluten, no dairy, and NO PICKING my delicate skin.

I also imagine my skin glowing beautifully before I fall asleep. 🙂

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Amy July 19, 2015, 9:10 pm

Hi Fran, thank you for this article. Please may I ask a question? I am on Dianette/Dianne pill and Sprionolactone and my skin is perfect ( I went on both those as my skin was very bad). I want to come off both to have a baby. As both these medicines lower androgens and clear my skin, do you think estroblock is not for me? Thank you.

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- Kristi June 7, 2016, 11:13 am
  
  See my comment above about Spironolactone. Please get off of it and just stay off. It can wreak havoc over time!
  
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Denise July 19, 2015, 8:58 pm

Hi Fran,

I’ve had acne, very oily skin and body acne since I was a young teenager. Since 18 years old I’ve been on various types of birth control (mainly Yaz) which did help to keep the acne at bay. Last year at age 26 I went off of birthcontrol- 3 months later my skin got horrible again (like it was before birthcontrol). I’ve done a candida cleanse, am now mostly off dairy and eggs (I have a high sensitivity to eggs) and am taking various supplements (berberine, milk thistle, zinc, omega 3s, and a probiotic). My acne is mostly around my jaw, upper neck and body, which leads me to believe it’s hormonal. I have been researching Estroblock but I think I might have higher androgen levels than estrogen. Do you think it’s possible that I could have higher androgen levels with that type of acne? Also do you have any recommendations for reducing adrogen levels? Thanks! Love your articals!

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Kristi July 19, 2015, 8:41 pm

Your email about estroblock was like a miracle in my inbox!

This may be the answer for me, for my weight, if not my skin. For years, I’ve been taking an Rx prescribed for hormonal acne. Since that time, I have put on nearly 50 pounds!

It was gained over the course of several years so I just thought, maybe this is what happens in one’s late 30s and early 40s.

It was only recently that I made the connection between the two, time-frame-wise, and learned that the Rx was a testosterone blocker. Turns out, my T levels are LOW (clinically “normal” but still “low” – too low for someone 42, IMO). This has also had an impact on my thyroid function. Yet, the Dr. just keeps telling me nothing is wrong.

I already eat the foods that are supposed to increase T levels (imagine what they’d be if i DIDN’T) but still I’m low.

So, along with possibly helping my skin, I’m hoping that this estroblock will INDEED boost my T levels enough to help me lose weight, if nothing else, since no matter how much I work out, right now, at my current levels, I haven’t been able to lose a single pound.

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- Kristi July 26, 2015, 4:17 pm
  
  That Rx was spironolactone, like many others have mentioned here.
  
  Did it help keep my hormonal acne at bay? Yes.
  
  Did I put on 50 lbs out of nowhere within five years? YES!
  
  NOT worth it, in my opinion.
  
  Some people don’t seem to have weight gain as a side effect (my guess is, those people are younger), but for those in their mid-30s to 50s and beyond, it is more prevalent (the weight gain).
  
  I’m hoping estroblock will be of some benefit to help me combat the effects of low T/bad estrogens in my body, as a result of the spironolactone.
  
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  - Fran July 28, 2015, 10:48 am
    
    Hi Kisti, if you were taking spiro to correct high testosterone then be careful with EstroBlock. It is an estrogen metaboliser but it can also raise your testosterone levels. I recommend going on an anti-androgen diet, along with managing your blood sugar levels if needed. In addition, consider doing some light detoxing to get rid of any chemical residue of the spiro.
    
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    - Kristi June 7, 2016, 11:17 am
      
      Somehow I didn’t see this till now.
      
      Thanks for this. I’ll look into an anti-androgen diet. I’ve done various detoxes since getting off the meds.
      
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Jess July 19, 2015, 8:36 pm

This is good to know. Does this mean that if you have PCOS and already have high androgens and high testosterone that you should stay away from estroblock?

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- Fran July 26, 2015, 10:47 am
  
  Not necessarily. It depends if you have been on a synthetic form of birth control, and what your test results indicate. If you are too high in estrogens and borderline high in testosterone, then a small course of estroblock or DIM may be beneficial.
  
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Sarah July 16, 2015, 9:51 am

Hi Fran, thanks for this blogpost, it’s been really helpful! We’ve been in touch over the past couple of months since my consultation and you recently explained that Estroblock might be doing more harm than good (for me) … so I’ve stopped yesterday! I just wondered how long it will take the supplement to fully leave my system? I’m still taking vitex, evening primrose oil, zinc and a multivitamin. Thank you, Sarah x

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- Fran July 19, 2015, 6:19 pm
  
  Hi Sarah, It doesn’t take long, but the other supplements may take a little while longer to kick in.. so patience is definitely important.
  
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Anya July 14, 2015, 10:06 pm

Hi Fran! I’ve had mild to moderate acne for about 5 years now, starting maybe 4ish months after going off a high androgenic/low estrogenic birth control pill. (Estrostep). Not only did I get acne but over the course of 3 months or so, I also developed recurring styes. The styes went away but the acne has never really improved. Meanwhile, I had never had acne in my life, not even as a young teenager before going on the pill. The acne oddly enough started primarily on my forehead (which made me feel as if it wasn’t hormonal) but for the past several years it’s also been really bad around my chin/mouth/cheeks/jaw.

I went to a Naturopath about 4 months ago who did some standard tests but not the test I think I needed – one that tested my hormones over a longer period of time. (Just one singular saliva and blood test that tested my hormones on one day). She had me take a whole host of supplements to address my nutrient deficiencies but nothing changed. I also already eat a VERY clean diet and am a health coach myself so Ive tried every other natural internal and external remedy to no avail. I ordered EstroBlock, milk thistle and burdock root after spending days researching all of this… my acne has been exceptionally bad and cystic recently so I figured I had nothing to lose. Anyway, I’m aware the most responsible thing would be to pay for a more extensive test. just a little frustrated at the moment due to all of the time and money Ive already put into this. I’m curious about whether or not there is a more common hormonal problem that occurs for women who go off this (or other) birth controls? Is there a reason EstroBlock seems to work for so many woman?

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- Fran July 19, 2015, 6:15 pm
  
  Hi Anya, actually I don’t feel that testing within the first six months after coming off the pill is necessary, because we already know what your hormones are attempting to do. Supplementation and diet choices all depends on whether or not your cycle has returned, if you have any PMS, and how your skin was on the pill (and what pill).
  
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  - Anya July 25, 2015, 8:40 pm
    
    Hi Fran, as mentioned I have been off birth control for about 5 years at this point and started getting acne 4 months after stopping… so I’ve had different degrees of acne for about 4.5 years. I was on Estrostep. I have some PMS, not too severe – definitely breast tenderness, some cramps and moodiness but I never thought it was anything abnormal. My skin before the pill and while on the pill was perfect. I also rarely had an irregular cycle since going off the pill but I also did not monitor it closely. I think there were several months it was not on time.
    
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    - kristina October 8, 2015, 12:22 am
      
      Hi fran..great work and videos.
      I work with a great naturopath and im 95 percent clear. I started metabolic maintanence dim in dec and although my face cleared…i suffer once a month from a detoxy whitehead cluster on my chin near my mouth…
      Now started progesterone and into my 3rd month.
      I also take b6…and magnesium…is it dims not for me?
      I live in australia.
      
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      - Fran October 8, 2015, 7:41 pm
        
        Hi Kristina, it sounds to me like the DIM was one piece of the puzzle but you needed to work on your progesterone too. Try weaning off the DIM once you are no longer getting those monthly breakouts.
        
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        kristina October 8, 2015, 8:40 pm
        
        Thanks fran so much in getting back to me..you dont think to much b6 causes over methylation?
        
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        Fran October 8, 2015, 10:33 pm
        
        No, I body will only take as many vitamins as it needs, then flush the rest out. This is why B2 can give you bright yellow pee (as one example), and Vitamin C will cause diarrhoea in too high amounts.
        
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        JULIET May 23, 2016, 4:20 am
        
        Hi Fran,
        I am 33 years old and used to be on birth control pill Diane (Estelle) for about 9 years and due to alot of side afects with hives and other health problems associated with the contraceptive pill i decided to come off the pill. I have been off the pill for almost a year now and my acne came back extremely bad and even had breakouts on my back where i never had before as well as hair thinning out on my head and also slight facial hair.
        My Dr put me on Minocycline and it only made my acne worse as well as really affect my mood and made my skin slightly yellow.
        I went off it after a two months and i have been trying to contol my diet (dairy free, refined sugar free, more greens etc) and take extra vitamins (A, B6, Chromium, Zinc, selinium) and it has not helped. I recently also tried Vitex and Saw Palmetto and this only made me have really painful cystic pimples on my chin every month close to my period and would not clear away until 2 weeks after my period. I had to stop taking Vitex and now and before resorting to accutane i am considering Estroblock but unsure if it is right for me.
        My results for homone level testing came back and it turns out i have very high levels of SHBG (131) and Testosterone levels (0.7) and free testostrone (5) FSH (3 U/L) LH (6 U/L) Oestradial 1500 pmol/L Progestrone 73 nmol/L
        Looking at these results would you recommend Estroblock or DIM for me?
        
        Many thanks
        
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        Fran May 30, 2016, 6:59 pm
        
        Hi Juliet, please book in a consultation that I can properly help you.
        
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        Ciara January 21, 2017, 12:03 am
        
        Acne is caused by high lsevels of dht and testosterone.There was a study in which doctors found out that women who suffered from acne had low estrogen and progesterone levels and high dht,testosterone ,and cortisol levels.The women were prescribed estrogen tablets and the acne improved.Estrogen is an anti acne hormone.Testosterone stimulates the sebaceous glands causing the skin to produce more oil and become acne prone.If a women who has high estrogen levels has acne it is not because of her estrogen levels.She could have acne for other reasons. My doctor gave me anti biotics and my acne went away.
        
        Fran January 25, 2017, 3:15 pm
        
        Hi Ciara, you are somewhat misinformed. I have had many clients that have tested normal levels of dht and testosterone but still have acne, and clients who have acne that is not related to their hormonal system. We have about 40 different types of estrogens, some good and some bad, sometimes estrogen dominance can cause acne as well. It is dangerous to make any blanket statement about acne, it can cause suffering when women go down that path but it is the wrong treatment for them.
        
        Yana February 7, 2017, 5:16 am
        
        Hi, I am also on Diane and wanting to get off it soon. Any luck finding something that helped your hair loss and acne after coming off?
        
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        Natalie April 13, 2017, 9:47 pm
        
        Hi, I have heavy bleeding, loss of hair, acne, and bad melasma. I got tested blood and Saliva, and both showed my estrogen was low and progesterone was low. the dr gave me estrogen pills and then i started having bad pains and went back and found cysts on my overies. so i stopped and paid went away. so was i actually estrogen dominant? cysts are actually caused by high estrogen, right? so what is going on? thanks
        
        Fran April 18, 2017, 3:13 pm
        
        Hi Natalie, we have 40 different types of estrogens and they don’t test all of them. I recommend that you find a local naturopath to work on balancing your hormonal system.

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